The Cure: Classic or Dud?

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like decent disintegration retreads are pretty much the best possible thing they could be doing at this point

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

yeah total agree!

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

top retreads u cowards

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

^^ this!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link

I still maintain my 'I'll believe it when I see it' with regards to

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

you'll all be sorry when they release the three-disc "69 Lovesongs" in December

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Whenever I 69 with you
You make me feel like I am etc

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

I'm a Wish deluxe edition denier me. Won't believe it until I get it home and play it.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

69ing an Arab

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I think you mean 69ing Another

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

Suddenly I stop
And I know it's too late
69ing in a forest
All alone

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

I have questions

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

Also:

Fall fall fall fall
Into the wall
Jump, jump out of time
Fall fall fall fall
Out of the sky
Cover my face
While the animals 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

The album title's a METAPHOR, god

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

Xp

Sometimes we would spend the night
Just 69ing on the floor
And even though it felt soft at the time
I always used to wake up sore

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Show me show me show me
Show me how you 69 that trick

(If you will.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

You remember that day in Paris
When we wandered through the rain
And promised to each other
That we'd always sixty-nine
And dreamed that dream
To be two souls as one

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I would say I’m sorry
If I thought that you would 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

This is stranger than I thought
Six different ways inside my heart
And every one I’ll keep tonight
Six different ways to 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

Wait, just occurred to me that we haven't done the joke in the opposite (Magnetic Fields) direction.

The book of lovecats is long and boring

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

I really want a cover of Lost that undoes all the ugly production/screaming and really knows what to do with that bassline - the latter swoops in and out a la Swastika Eyes in the version in my head

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:05 (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Such a pity this wasn't seventeen seconds ago.

giraffe, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

<ding>

Another new song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_Eumowa5Q

Musically sounds like they calculated the exact median between Homesick and Untitled, then went from there. Lyrically it is (unusually) openly about the death of his brother, there was a bit of a preamble about it too. Followed up with the most committed version of Disintegration I've seen in years and years.

Really hope this new album is well-recorded. The new songs sound Disintegration-y but with (even) less variation - reminds me a bit of that last Pink Floyd album The Endless River, where every song sounds a bit like another song and the resulting effect creates a kind of ambient rock feel.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Friday, 21 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

Stunning, I want this album NOW.

Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another new song, Fargile Thing;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmxUSFj8p1o

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Sorry, song is actually called "A Fragile Thing.'

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

i preferred the original title

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

Yeah, "Fargile Thing" would be a great title.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

probably my least favourite of the new songs? the closest musically to that Bloodflowersy MOR plod - underwhelming drum patterns have killed a lot of latter-day Cure songs for me and this feels like another casualty

musing on what an Actually Good Cure LP might sound like in 2022, I thought that it could be great if they took Laughing Stock as a jumping-off point - really leaning into sparseness and silence, taking that lovely facility for constructing interlocking melody parts and deconstructing it- minimal goth pastoral, if you will

(admittedly it is a weird pastime daydreaming about how beloved legacy band might make interesting creative choices, but I suppose ILM is a relatively safe space for this kind of thing)

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

Step 1: Sack Jason
Step 2: *literally anything*
Step 3: Brilliant album

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

I just want the new album to drop already, obviously it's done. I only listen to these previews once or twice so they will be still sort of unknown when that finally happens.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

xp tbh i am still pretty skeptical of Reeves Gabrels as a Cure member - recently someone on twitter posted video of his solo from From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea - and it sounds dumb but it struck me in a way it hadn’t before that a member of Tin Machine was in The Cure - and at that point I had to have a little lie down

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Bee OK there was some talk on twitter that something would be released digitally before the end of the year (but vinyl wouldn’t be til 2023)

multiple pinches of salt required obviously

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

I don't see it happening this year because of Wish but it should happen in the first of 2023.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

*First half

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

gabrels is a good guitar player but he is wanky in ways that the cure don't need; but generally speaking he kind of tones it down in the cure. which also means, I'm not sure why he needs to be there, or why it needs to be him.

akm, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

He and Jason certainly don't make the band *better*, at least not to my ears, so clearly Robert must just like having them around.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

If Perry coming back means that Reeves gets to Wrong Number all over the new album, I can put up with Jason

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

I guess to Robert the lure of a Bowie guitarist was irresistible. I do like his work on Earthling altho it’s not remotely Cure-appropriate.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

I am an actual big Tin Machine fan and have a lot of time for Reeves as creative foil for Bowie - but yeah not at all sure that his aesthetic really sits well with the Cure, to AKM's point, he seems to be fairly diligently playing away from his own style and thus starts to feel a bit like a session muso

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 7 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

He's pulled off less weird solos than I would have expected and that honestly is a plus. I was pretty impressed with the solo he did on "A Night Like This" when I last saw the band in 2016; I was expecting him to wave his dildo around but instead he did a really nice replacement of the sax solo part without replicating it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

Reeves’ wife spent a good amount of time chatting with me about him and the band on Twitter, it was very sweet

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

I think it’s obv that Robert and him get along well. They’ve been doing random collabs since the mid 90s. More puzzling to me is why he brought back Perry who doesn’t seem to be anything on stage and looks pretty miserable doing so.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 November 2022 08:17 (one year ago) link

My theory is he has major dirt on Robert

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 08:41 (one year ago) link

"he wears makeup, you know"

StanM, Monday, 7 November 2022 09:00 (one year ago) link

BRING BACK LOL

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXxiLwwmx4M

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 27 November 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

wow indeed. I hope the music is healing, it's amazing to see him so engaged and present in his work after such a long time.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 November 2022 06:20 (one year ago) link

I'm not sure I approve of this kind of bleakness being unleashed on fans of The Cure - I mean, if I was in a bad enough place, I'm not sure this couldn't be the push. And I'm not even gloomy or depressed, usually.

StanM, Sunday, 27 November 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link

I had avoided all of the new songs until now and oh my god, this is legit the best thing I’ve heard from them since 1992

castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 27 November 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link


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