Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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This could be good if it's recorded relatively raw and live-ish.

I'm fully expecting overproduced glop.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

I’m hoping for overproduced glop, tbh. At least half the songs on this list had wonderfully massive and dramatic production.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

well, those tiny little snippets teased already sound pretty big, backing vocalists and stuff, but not unlike the seeger sessions. in character. hard to tell.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usSLCdiRoAw

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

Short, sweet, sounds fine, just what you'd expect it to sound like.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

I think that's violinist Katie Jacoby, who's actually been a highlight of the Who and Roger Daltrey's tours in recent years (she gets the spotlight on "Baba O'Riley"). Also, not an exact match, but the lighting and color makes it look like an homage to Elvis's 1968 TV special.

But yeah, classic sweet soul music - sounds pretty good. Would've made a very nice B-side back in the day.

birdistheword, Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Digging this! Who's the drummer? (Kind of glad it's not Max, tbh.) And yep, Jacoby's great -- kills the "Baba" solo every time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

They kind of obscure the band in the video, so it remains a mystery.

Someone noticed that there is a "Covers (Vol. 1)" affixed to the album title ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

Shoulda called it "Cover Them."

Tragic missed opportunity

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

At least the cover looks good. Best cover since Tunnel of Love

Cow_Art, Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

"How YOU doin'?"

"Cool ranch dressing!" (morrisp), Thursday, 29 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

"Before my daughter takes you out in this car, let me tell you about the time I drove it to the boardwalk in 1986, Annie Liebowitz was waitin' there for me, I had my bolo tie..."

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

Everyone looks cool next to a '50s-'60s American car.

Sit on the hood of a Prius, Bruce. See if you still look cool.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

A vintage wood-paneled station wagon might be a better fit.

birdistheword, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

Or convalescent home shuttle bus

calstars, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Played the Killers' encore with Jake Clemons.

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 October 2022 05:15 (one year ago) link

It's been years and years since he was so active popping up with other people.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 October 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

Besides McCartney (which he's done at least twice), the Killers and Coldplay, where else has he popped up in recent years?

I can only remember four: Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam and Arcade Fire (in 2007 when they did "State Trooper" and "Keep the Car Running").

birdistheword, Monday, 3 October 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

Bleachers, too.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 October 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

Billy Joel lol (2018)

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 3 October 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Total projection, but after doing so much autobiography with the memoir and the Broadway show, I can imagine it's refreshing for him to do a bunch of songs where the meaning is simple and on the surface. And the arrangements here feel like an extension of the Western Stars orchestrations.

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 3 October 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Nice to see him in a suit again.

The sound of it is kind of bland and soul-free. Technically good but it doesn't do much for me.

Crushing on the bassist.

Cow_Art, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:13 (one year ago) link

Glad to hear the song, but kind of an odd choice, as the sole '80s track on the record (right?). Also, a nostalgia take on a song about nostalgia. Sonically it sounds like his slick '90s wilderness years.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link

Kinda stiff with less range compared to Commodores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrkEDe6Ljqs

curmudgeon, Friday, 14 October 2022 12:17 (one year ago) link

He should’ve covered this on his 1985 tour, though I doubt Max could’ve played with the necessary finesse. And that’s what this feels like: a somewhat unexpected and mildly interesting one-off — “Hey, didja hear what Bruce covered the other night?” — but not something I feel compelled to return to (unlike the original).

And at the beginning he doesn’t seem to know what to do with his arms.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

Is he lip-synching? There's something weird about the sound.

Lily Dale, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

Crushing on the bassist.

Who is it? I don't recognize.

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

It's likely he's lip-synching. IIRC whenever he's used a live mic in his videos, the takes were allowed to run a bit (or in the case of "Brilliant Disguise" the whole video came from a single take), but it becomes much less practical when they're choreographing camera movements and they're making as many cuts like they're doing here.

birdistheword, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

I mean Bruce brings nothing to this song. It’s also kind of weird he’s singing a tribute to someone else’s friends. Did he ever meet Marvin?

Chris L, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

I don't think he's in the video, but one of the backing vocalists on the recording is Fonzi Thornton, currently touring with Roxy Music.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Did he ever meet Marvin?

I think Bruce, like millions of others, felt like Marvin was a friend from how he connected with Marvin's music.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

I think it's a fine cover, and pretty much what I expect from this album - faithful to the original arrangements and "tastefully" executed. That's kind of what he does in concert, though it's a bit more thrilling there with many of them unplanned or last minute tributes, kind of like testing the band.

I guess we'll see how the rest of the album plays. I'm sure it'll be very listenable, but at the moment it definitely feels like a lot of covers projects - Moondog Matinee, CHOBA B CCCP, etc. - where it's mostly for the devoted.

birdistheword, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

It’s also kind of weird he’s singing a tribute to someone else’s friends.

That's what I thought at first, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

but at the moment it definitely feels like a lot of covers projects - Moondog Matinee, CHOBA B CCCP, etc. - where it's mostly for the devoted.

So there will be a few hits buried amongst a lot of who-cares misses.

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

I dunno, Jann Wenner described the new album a "stunning."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Thanks! Now that you've told me that, it's a horse of different color entirely.

And yeah, I am sure he loved Marvin Gaye as a fan as much as anyone else, but Marvin just doesn't seem as much of a Springsteen-connected artist as, say, Roy Orbison or Ronnie Spector, to name two.

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

xp It's a lock for Barack Obama's best of 2022 playlist.

Chris L, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

The synth sound and tempo are so close to "Streets of Philadelphia" that I could imagine the two songs overlapping in concert or else stay far away from each other.

But if "Streets of Philadelphia" is a chamber piece, this one expands into a Philly Soul arrangement before long. I like it a lot. And whenever I hear a major songwriter cover a song, I can't help but listen for what they admire about the song they're covering. This one definitely fits in Springsteen's wheelhouse (in themes, in the blues-to-gospel relationship between the verses and the chorus, in the blue-collar metaphor of the title) while also definitely not being a song of his own.

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

xp It's a lock for Barack Obama's best of 2022 playlist.

Sad lol

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

Wow, just noticed this:

Only The Strong Survive features vocals from Springsteen and instrumentation primarily from his longtime producer Ron Aniello.

So Ron Aniello plays most of the music, with others providing horns and vox? Man, looking at his credits, how did Aniello even get on the Bruce train in the first place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Aniello

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Maybe when he co-produced the Patti Scialfa album in 2007?

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Friday, 14 October 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

So there will be a few hits buried amongst a lot of who-cares misses.

Moondog Matinee is kind of like that ("Share Your Love With Me" and "Mystery Train" are highlights, the rest aren't bad but not really memorable either).

I'd have to listen to CHOBA B CCCP again but I remember it being fairly consistent with no real peaks. Enjoyable stuff, but what's missing becomes very clear when you compare it to Run Devil Run.

birdistheword, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Yes, Moondog Matinee is exactly what I was thinking of and those tunes are indeed the highlights.

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

The synth sound and tempo are so close to "Streets of Philadelphia" lol I had same thought. It's a nice track but imo doesn't add anything (other than Bruce doing some odd dance-like moves).

that's not my post, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I guess he was on Stern:

Stern asked whether Springsteen had, in fact, played guitar for Clarence Clemons on his deathbed, and Bruce confirmed that he had, reprising a good bit of "Land of Hope and Dreams." Springsteen broke into both "Not Fade Away" and "Darkness on the Edge of Town" to demonstrate how his voice has held up after nearly six decades and disk surgery (which required moving the vocal cords). Stern had asked whether he'd ever worked with a vocal coach, and Springsteen replied that he had not, citing his "naturally healthy technique." (His hearing has not fared as well: Springsteen said "it's bad" and revealed that he uses hearing aids "at home quite a bit and they help a lot.")

...

Still, to hear Bruce recount walking into his parents' house with his Oscar for "Streets of Philadelphia" was one of several winning moments. As he told it, Springsteen merely placed the statue on the kitchen table and sat down across from his father, Douglas, and said nothing.

"I'll never tell anybody what to do ever again," the elder Springsteen said.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

"aww" and stuff.. but the idea that they had that interaction at that point in his career blows my mind. Should read his book sometime.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

book is great, highly recommend
sheds a lot of light on his rship with his dad & his struggles w depresson

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

Honestly, I recall that was the biggest conspicuous omission/absence from his Broadway show. So much was (like the book) about his family, and especially his relationship with his dad, that I was expecting at least a tiny bit about *being* a dad and surprised to get (iirc) nothing. It's a trite/cheesy subject for sure, or could be, but there was room in the show for maybe a glimpse. It's not like (Grandpa!) Bruce's kids are little or anything or need their privacy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link


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