The Cure: Classic or Dud?

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And now the 'orange' film that that is much more inaccessible is The Cure in.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

tour has started - now a six-piece (!) with Perry back (!) - two new songs, I listened to Endsong (title clearly AI-generated) and it was pretty good if a bit overlong and dirgey (yes I know) - anyway i always feel a bit more cheerful when the Cure are out and about

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

This is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubrm3aJMcXg

Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

And here is the other new one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCy95OQh_w

Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

wow Endsong is the first new Cure thing I have liked unreservedly in about 20 years - and Robert even looks a bit healthier, I hope they're excited and firing up. On both songs he sounds like he actually feels the words he's singing which is a nice change.

(also I love that Simon's default stage moves look like trying to get a better purchase on the refrigerator he's carrying upstairs)

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 7 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

i was going to say 'finally the classic wild mood swings lineup has reunited!' but gabrels is still in the band? becoming a 6-piece is even more unexpected than bamonte's return

the new songs sound surprisingly good too, that album better come out for real soon lol

ufo, Friday, 7 October 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

wow, these new songs are really nice... might be time to buy a new cure album soon!

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 7 October 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

Perry back, eh? Three guitarists, they really HAVE become the goth rock version of Iron Maiden. (This is far from a complaint, and ever since I saw Simon wearing a Maiden shirt a few years back in a photo I don't think they'd mind the comparison.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 October 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-OxylCWlR/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 October 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

roger probably didn't know it was happening until perry walked onstage

akm, Monday, 10 October 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

Dan Perry joined the Cure?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

LOL

No, he's not back yet!

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

Another new song debut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yLPtVXXGTQ

Really into these new ones, have listened to Endsong a number of times now inc a better recording where the dynamics were more apparent- and there’s a cool drone note at the very beginning that sits inside the first chords in a really nice way

really into the “Disintegration but old and tired” vibe - like I don’t think this album is gonna be Blackstar but maybe it will be a really worthy final Cure LP with some poignant reflections on love & loss - and I think these might feel more resonant coming from a 63-yo Robert Smith than did Bloodflowers’ grumbles about turning 40

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link

songs of a lost world can't be their final album when they've got a second one on the way, remember (lol).

but since the new material is actually showing up it doesn't seem that impossible that we actually get both albums next year. or the second one will be delayed until after 4:14 scream

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link

OMG, this is also great. Maybe waiting until they were really ready was the right move.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:09 (one year ago) link

three new songs does seem promising - and the merch calls the tour “shows of a lost world” which reads nearly almost like commitment that something might perhaps happen

ha i guess i’m assuming it is a last LP is partly because I am reflexively preempting Robert’s regular “i wanted this to be our definitive statement and after this I don’t care if the band breaks up” rhetoric - and honestly, it would be miraculous enough if this came out, let alone another one - but there’s definitely a Last Songs thing going on lyrically

Really hoping that it is better recorded than their last few LPs

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

he said in early march that songs of a lost world was almost finished (& that the second album was already complete) - he was just putting the final touches on it & he was hoping to release it in september/october before the tour but he was frustrated about that delay being necessary due to vinyl lead times. i'd guess that if it is indeed finished then the vinyl times have blown out well beyond what he thought & it'll be out next year.

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:43 (one year ago) link

I still maintain my 'I'll believe it when I see it' with regards to a new Cure record but this is the most promising it's looked in some time yea

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link

Don't these new songs sound like Disintegration retreads to anyone else? Oh, well.

I watched most of the Riga set last night and was happy to hear them do favorite old chestnuts like "The Walk". At times Smith's voice is uncanny. It hasn't changed and he can hit that high "I kissed you in the water..." and still sound like 1983. Good thing he quit smoking all those years ago!
"From The edge Of The deep Green Sea" is never not breathtaking.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 07:52 (one year ago) link

Don't these new songs sound like Disintegration retreads to anyone else? Oh, well.

tbf

really into the “Disintegration but old and tired” vibe

disagree though

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

.......they sound like Bloodflowers retreads.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

on first acquaintance they seem more successful than Bloodflowers IMO - more majesty and less plodding - and as mentioned above, i somehow find the lyrical bent a little more affecting this time around, when it really does seem to be informed by genuine emotion around loss and grief

but i am also clearly willing the Puported New Cure LP to be worthy - and i am okay with that

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:54 (one year ago) link

they sound more like disintegration retreads than bloodflowers retreads, which is a very good thing

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link

like decent disintegration retreads are pretty much the best possible thing they could be doing at this point

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

yeah total agree!

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

top retreads u cowards

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

^^ this!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link

I still maintain my 'I'll believe it when I see it' with regards to

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

you'll all be sorry when they release the three-disc "69 Lovesongs" in December

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Whenever I 69 with you
You make me feel like I am etc

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

I'm a Wish deluxe edition denier me. Won't believe it until I get it home and play it.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

69ing an Arab

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I think you mean 69ing Another

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

Suddenly I stop
And I know it's too late
69ing in a forest
All alone

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

I have questions

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

Also:

Fall fall fall fall
Into the wall
Jump, jump out of time
Fall fall fall fall
Out of the sky
Cover my face
While the animals 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

The album title's a METAPHOR, god

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

Xp

Sometimes we would spend the night
Just 69ing on the floor
And even though it felt soft at the time
I always used to wake up sore

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Show me show me show me
Show me how you 69 that trick

(If you will.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

You remember that day in Paris
When we wandered through the rain
And promised to each other
That we'd always sixty-nine
And dreamed that dream
To be two souls as one

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I would say I’m sorry
If I thought that you would 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

This is stranger than I thought
Six different ways inside my heart
And every one I’ll keep tonight
Six different ways to 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

Wait, just occurred to me that we haven't done the joke in the opposite (Magnetic Fields) direction.

The book of lovecats is long and boring

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

I really want a cover of Lost that undoes all the ugly production/screaming and really knows what to do with that bassline - the latter swoops in and out a la Swastika Eyes in the version in my head

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:05 (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Such a pity this wasn't seventeen seconds ago.

giraffe, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

<ding>

Another new song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_Eumowa5Q

Musically sounds like they calculated the exact median between Homesick and Untitled, then went from there. Lyrically it is (unusually) openly about the death of his brother, there was a bit of a preamble about it too. Followed up with the most committed version of Disintegration I've seen in years and years.

Really hope this new album is well-recorded. The new songs sound Disintegration-y but with (even) less variation - reminds me a bit of that last Pink Floyd album The Endless River, where every song sounds a bit like another song and the resulting effect creates a kind of ambient rock feel.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Friday, 21 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

Stunning, I want this album NOW.

Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Another new song, Fargile Thing;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmxUSFj8p1o

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link


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