2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

the thing i'm really excited about, but which i haven't seen much comment on, is how much obama - and biden - are talking about education. it comes up in every speech. more preschool stuff. more headstart stuff. more investment in schools full stop. i really hope it turns into the priority it seems it is. that and health care are the key to everything. but all the other stuff, from the department of the interior to HUD to superfund stuff - all that stuff is going to get knowledgable motivated people with a sense of a mandate behind them.

I hope they make college easier to afford.

what gets me excited is the prospect of working for somebody smarter than me

anybody else get the feeling that the financial crisis has taken the wind somewhat out of the sails of people whose first reaction to government spending is "how ya gonna pay for it??" it's like, uh, they're the government. they can pay for anything if they think it's important enough.

The next administration will reinvent the term "conservative budget."

Whether McCain or Obama wins, both has a better stated policy on science than the present administration, so that's a start.

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"TAXPAYER!"

http://yeswecanholdbabies.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama_011.jpg

vs

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http://www.houstonrealnews.com/blog/img/f295/MWWeawMcCain.JPG

http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDFiNTQ1YjIxNjdhZGQwNjRlZjczMmEyMTUyMjM1MWY=

frum doesnt like the ayers hateorade

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1070975/Man-shot-times-street-racist-gunman--wearing-Barack-Obama-T-shirt.html

maybe i should have started a new thread ...

INTN'L INCIDENT - RACIST LONDON MAN SHOOTS OBAMA SHIRT WEARING BLACK MAN BOTTLE OPENER SOCCER TIPPING CONTENT INSIDE

TIPPING

too controversial

I'd like to see london airgun man shipped in a crate to Washington DC, where they just repealed our local gun ban, and basically everybody has an obama t-shirt. I'd really like to see it.

Well, given U.S.'s (cough) gun control laws, I fear the driving-into-anti-Obama-territory-with-an-Obama-bumper-sticker crime factor will rise if Obama wins. I'm definitely not trying to promote fear because of this. But we should be prepared for at least more isolated incidents of civil terror, or more right-wing militia bullshit, unfortunately.

oh definitely I was just saying I would consider the outcome hilarious if london perp tried that shit in my town.

it will be "interesting" to see if our new domestic surveillance and counter-terror authorities can tackle a renewed threat from domestic wingnuts a la clinton era with the same "effectiveness" that has prevented a successful attack on U!S! SOIL! for the past six

oh wait it's october duh. seven.

How's the availability for Obama shirts in London? Are they available in proper shops or do street vendors have 'em?

One of the weirdest(and best) things about this election season; there's a thriving market around here for _bootleg_ (and homemade) campaign merchandise. Seriously.

What times we live in.

i watched the debate at a friend's house in the boonies and when i came out my obama-stickered car had been keyed on the drivers side from back tire to front

given that apparently the dude across the street 'jokes' about assassinating the homie i prob won't be hanging out at their house for debate #3

ugh i'm sorry!

jeezus

kill him!

well here, a couple of McCain/Palin cars got keyed... weirdly distributed yin and yang.

still, hoos, that sucks. :(

Yup. :-/

Meantime, work from Alaska re: Branchflower:

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548955.html

Funniest part:

Meg Stapleton, a local spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, said Todd Palin is answering Branchflower's questions but isn't hopeful of a fair outcome.

"Todd certainly wants to make sure that everyone knows he has nothing to hide," she said. "But Todd and the governor both feel the outcome was predetermined and prejudged back when the governor was named a vice presidential candidate."

(Note that the investigation had long been underway before that point and Palin'd already had to backtrack a couple of times before then.)

kill him!

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:41 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

terrorist!

Hand's posts upthread about Obama's putative appointments of good people, and his history of caring for the less fortunate, are moving!

I wanted to ask a question. It is widely said that in 2000 and 2004 thre were voting irregularities that may have favoured the GOP. It is sometimes said that they 'stole' one or other election, whether in FL in 2000 or OH in 2004, or more. Thus, it's not just a matter of how people choose to vote, but also about how much electoral fraud and manipulation takes place. (Possibly the Democrats do this too, I don't know; they supposedly did in 1960 anyway.)

If this is the case, then doesn't it improve the GOP's chances whatever the polls say?

Lawyers for Obama (a million pro bono volunteers) have been doing some impressive work in this area to make sure nobody gets disenfranchised and it's pretty clear they're not going to differentiate between Dems and Reps if someone's being messed with at a polling place. GOP tend to try to use FUD tactics around voter qualification in the weeks before to depress morale and (they hope) opposition turnout.

THIS TIME (they really mean it this time), the Obama organization at a local level is very well organized. If you watch Fox News you'll hear all sorts of muck-raking about Democratic voter fraud by them this time round (e.g. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LVDS80). I am not qualified to judge these on their merits, but you don't see them much in the mainstream media.

HOO BOY: Sarah Palin and the Spiritual Warfare Network

These people are CRAZY. It's a link to a Kos diary but it's A+++ in research and execution.

Fox is all over ACORN right now - showing investigations going on in all the main swing states.

This is getting a lot of play. What's touching is the belief in a future that promises more leaps off cliffs.

Can we get a correlation between swing states and the states where law enforcement is controlled by GOP elected officials or appointees?

xpost, so the imaginary writer of that email in ALS's post wants a kind of c.1950s italian christian democratic party led by Boss Hogg?

Pinefox, if voting irregularities won the election for the GOP in 2000 and 2004, it was only because the contest was so close. The polls now are predicting a more decisive victory for Obama than either of Bush's wins.

hahaha i love the corner. (hello, an argument in the Constitution)

Reporters are going to beat a path to her door in Alaska She is the future of the Republican Party and at 48 or so in 4 years, will be the conservative change we need which will emphasize conservative principles along with the ideal that power obtained by compromising your principles is not power worth obtaining. Her responsibility argument at the debate scored the highest among the dials of independent voters. To say, go ahead and pursue happiness (hello, an argument in the Constitution), but I will protect your rewards and keep both Government and Business from screwing you will be an absolutely winning argument. This is the sense I get from her. I wrote Kathleen Parker and said I thought she was way to quick to jump the gun for Gov. Palin to exit the campaign.My point was, we, as normal Americans, want somebody who understands us, has good instincts and can learn from his or her mistakes and get better. I think Gov. Palin fits this bill. In all honesty, I think Gov. Romney (with Gov. Palin’s instincts) and Gov. Jindall also have this ability and I am encouraged that the future of the Republican party is in great hands. for her response to all of his policies and she is going to shine more and more.

so the imaginary writer of that email in ALS's post wants a kind of c.1950s italian christian democratic party led by Boss Hogg?

Anything to keep 'em happy.

The embrace of vacuity on the part of Palin supporters like that amuses me a lot. Hey, they want it, they got it.

Can we get a correlation between swing states and the states where law enforcement is controlled by GOP elected officials or appointees?

― Christopher Blix Hammer (Ed), Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:41 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

What?

Meanwhile Hannity gets his ass handed to him:

In how many of the jurisdictions where ACORN is being investigated are the plod elected as or appointed by the GOP?

Ungh.

lol Colmes. Might as well replace him with a cardboard cutout. Cheaper for everyone.

god, fuck hannity

Wow, look at the poll.
McCain landslide!

The Fox News text vote was less of a landslide after the last debate. They're running scared.