Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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FWIW, here's a rundown of small shows done by the Stones in Chicago, all "secret" shows:

https://www.audacy.com/wxrt/rolling-stones-secret-show-chicago

One of my big regrets is missing out on the Aragon show in 2002 which was NOT a secret show, just part of the three-show theater/arena/stadium format of that tour. I totally wanted to go but alas it was before I really went to shows on a regular basis and the idea of going to a show was still considered a huge luxury. I'm not sure how easy it would've been to land a ticket though.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

I saw Prince at that series of shows he did at the Forum (and elsewhere in L.A.), in 2011... that's a great example of a huge artist doing a long stand at manageably-sized venues in a single city.

Disarm u with a SMiLE (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

This ultimately didn't happen because he died, but Tom Petty had talked about following up his 40th Anniversary tour by going out once or twice each year and just doing 1-2 week theatre residences in different cities, something akin to the Fillmore runs he'd done in San Francisco.

Yeah, he played a three night stand at a smallish theatre here once. But he also tended to avoid arenas, and I honestly have no idea if he could have filled arenas at the end. Probably? I mean, his final show here was at Wrigley.

I think one thing about acts like Prince or the Stones or whomever is that their small shows typically arrived as a surprise, without much fanfare. Whether it was club shows from Metallica or Green Day here a few weeks ago, or surprise smaller shows from Pearl Jam or or Prince or whatever, it feels like tickets are often announced and sold barely 24 hours in advance, not usually for high princes and typically a line-up-and-buy, first come first served sort of deal. Also, sometimes some sort of bracelet to prove you're the one that bought the ticket. Other acts have made sure the ticket holder had a credit card that matched the one that purchased the ticket, but iirc that kind of stuff has backfired a few times.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

I'm sure Spotify getting into the action will sort this mess right out: https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/10/spotify-starts-selling-live-music-tickets-to-fans-directly/

Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P81_4B5yNk

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

Love the part when they isolate the keyboard part right at the point where there's a pretty prominent sour note, also Bruce's thrashy, out-of-tune guitar track is pretty amazing.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

Oh wow. Definitely gonna watch that. And I used to think his name was a pseudonym, because "Clearmountain" is what his mixes sound like.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

Wild to hear the drums without all the bells and whistles on top.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

The raw, unprocessed mix was cool to hear, too. And like Clearmountain said, “These guys mix themselves.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Heard "Thunder Road" on the radio the other day and amused myself pretending it's about a love triangle between Mary, a man, and his anthropomorphized talking car. It's the car that's waiting outside, making her this wistful, romantic pitch. Then the guy comes along all carefree and over-confident, and his counter-offer is all, hey girl, I can play guitar, and my car's out back, why don't you hop in, the door's open but the ride it ain't free? And the car seizes the moment and talks shit about all the boys in the town, all the boys she's (rightly) sent away, and the car is, like, see? These guys suck and they're going nowhere. It's a town full of love 'em and leave 'em losers, but I'm pulling out of here to win. Ka-chow.

Also, just putting this here:

In case you still refuse to feel old - Bruce Springsteen now looks like Woody Allen. pic.twitter.com/zDt6lHv9Dj

— Mike Rosenkrantz (@MikeRos59) August 31, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

Ha, had that discussion elsewhere

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

Speaking of surprising photos, no, this is not James Murphy, this is Southside Johnny:
http://backstreets.com/Assets/Images/2022/SSJ090422/SSJ_mkrajnak_090422_0V2A1078.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 September 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

"Little Steven Is Playing At My House"

lol

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 05:29 (one year ago) link

The Vinyl Me Please "Essentials" title for October is Nebraska! Seems like a crazy high-profile title for them.

Interesting, that was a notoriously difficult title to cut on vinyl, but I imagine they're working off the remastered digital file processed by Plangent, which probably took care of those problems from way back when.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

(IIRC, the only way to get around it on the original vinyl was to master it at a very low volume, surface noise be damned.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

OMG at that pic.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

XP Deets out: lacquers cut at half-speed from the plangent processed masters.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

Makes sense. This will potentially sound a lot better than the original vinyl then.

I always wondered if it was worth re-transferring the original cassette tape and using Plangent to correct any anomalies there rather than use the official master tape, which is basically a work part or a dub made from the cassette just to have something usable in the studio in the analog era. Even if they went through the trouble, it's very possible the cassette tape has degraded over time, but if they still have it, I think it's worth a shot.

birdistheword, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Lee Harvey Oswald didn't sell getting shot as hard as these cats are selling "Glory Days” here … pic.twitter.com/Zp3o4VYyjl

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) September 16, 2022

mean

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 September 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

More indications a new album is imminent. Rumored to be soul covers, which is fine with me.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

Vinyl Me Please catching heat for splitting the songs between sides differently than before

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

Yeah, a double LP of soul covers could be hit or miss. I wish he had done it in, say, 1989 or 1990 (when he had some down time and his voice was up to it), but we'll see.

My favorite McCartney album Run Devil Run is still like the gold standard for a covers album for me, but I can't really think of any that approach it. Maybe half of Moondog Matinee?

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

Bowie?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

I'll give it another chance. I actually have some mixed feelings about that album - I don't think it's bad ("Sorrow"'s great), but a lot of it feels too arch. I know Greil Marcus actually cites it as one of his very favorite Bowie albums, but he's not really a fan either and doesn't like most of his classics from that era.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

Turn it up tomorrow, September 29th at 10:00 AM ET! 📻 pic.twitter.com/uvu93rgGAo

— Bruce Springsteen (@springsteen) September 28, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

1. Only The Strong Survive - Jerry Butler
2. Soul Days - Dobie Gray
3. Night Shift - The Commodores
4. Do I Love You - Frank Wilson
5. The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - The Walker Brothers
6. Turn Back The Hands of Time - Tyrone Davis
7. When She Was My Girl - The Four Tops
8. Western Union Man - Jerry Butler
9. I Wish It Would Rain - The Temptations
10. Don't Play That Song - Aretha
11. Any Other Way - Jackie Shane
12. I Forgot To Be Your Lover - William Bell
13. Rooms of Gloom - The Four Tops
14. What Becomes of the Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin
15. Someday We'll Be Together - Diana Ross and The Supremes

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

(heavily rumored track list)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

"Night Shift"!

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

I Wish it would rain + what becomes of the brokenhearted = hell yes

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

Lots of great tracks in that list. William Bell one and Tyrone Davis one. Bell still does gigs and was great both times I saw him.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 September 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

This could be good if it's recorded relatively raw and live-ish.

I'm fully expecting overproduced glop.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

I’m hoping for overproduced glop, tbh. At least half the songs on this list had wonderfully massive and dramatic production.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

well, those tiny little snippets teased already sound pretty big, backing vocalists and stuff, but not unlike the seeger sessions. in character. hard to tell.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usSLCdiRoAw

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

Short, sweet, sounds fine, just what you'd expect it to sound like.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

I think that's violinist Katie Jacoby, who's actually been a highlight of the Who and Roger Daltrey's tours in recent years (she gets the spotlight on "Baba O'Riley"). Also, not an exact match, but the lighting and color makes it look like an homage to Elvis's 1968 TV special.

But yeah, classic sweet soul music - sounds pretty good. Would've made a very nice B-side back in the day.

birdistheword, Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

Digging this! Who's the drummer? (Kind of glad it's not Max, tbh.) And yep, Jacoby's great -- kills the "Baba" solo every time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

They kind of obscure the band in the video, so it remains a mystery.

Someone noticed that there is a "Covers (Vol. 1)" affixed to the album title ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

Shoulda called it "Cover Them."

Tragic missed opportunity

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

At least the cover looks good. Best cover since Tunnel of Love

Cow_Art, Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

"How YOU doin'?"

"Cool ranch dressing!" (morrisp), Thursday, 29 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

"Before my daughter takes you out in this car, let me tell you about the time I drove it to the boardwalk in 1986, Annie Liebowitz was waitin' there for me, I had my bolo tie..."

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

Everyone looks cool next to a '50s-'60s American car.

Sit on the hood of a Prius, Bruce. See if you still look cool.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

A vintage wood-paneled station wagon might be a better fit.

birdistheword, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

Or convalescent home shuttle bus

calstars, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link


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