"Finnegan's Wake" was mostly written in Paris, I think
― Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
This is all very well, but is it worth reading?
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh aye, it's a belter.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"Ulysses" was written in Trieste and Zurich
― Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Someone type Finnegan's Wake into Babelfish for me please.
― NickB, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Dingbod, the honours. Into English, as custom demands.
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
It'll prolly come out like a review of the new Coldplay album
― Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Still maintain that translating the Coldplay review into English was one of the funniest ILM posts this year.
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"That poor writer's end was hastened by that same intrusive apostrophe."
― Stevie T, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
A bit boring really (usually with B/fish, the more banal the source material, the more interesting its translation turns out) but here's the first bit:
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― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
It works if you imagine Kristin Hersh singing it.
― NickB, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
It's certainly the best description of the Fall I've ever read.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
ahem-hem, re: a.r. kane dudes's post-1994 thereabouts-whereabouts: rudi tambala's released a coupla things as sufi; ayuli's made coupla as alex!; there was one song - don't recall by which - on a wire tapper comp. a few years ago. the snippets of their stuff i've heard here&there been sometimes pretty good.
― t**t, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Coincidentally, everything you'll ever need to know bout AR Kane is here.
― nate woolls, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought it was Paris Trieste and Zurich but the internet would only tell me Paris.
― I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted for MEGADETH (though it's not even that good of an album).
― chap, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i checked the book itself and it says "Trieste-Zurich-Paris, 1914-1921"
― I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Who knew that books were more reliable than teh internets
he threw in some fresh lines at the last minute, in paris, iirc.
― banriquit, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, well it's the only line I kinda remembered.
― I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think I might love this band because they are sure ticking a lot of boxes for me right now.
― I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i think he threw in LOADS in paris, as it goes, but the thing was mapped out earlier -- was meant to be published in, like, 1918 or something, but it was banned in britain etc.
― banriquit, Monday, 16 June 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
by this band I mean AR Kane btw
― I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
mike t-diva's list >>>>>>>>>>>> melody maker's.
― or something, Monday, 16 June 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm surprised to see Shiva Burlesque on this list. I used to have that record and remember it had a beautiful sleeve but I can't remember what it sounded like. I think I enjoyed it somewhat, though.
A.R. Kane have frustrated me in the past because I've heard some really good stuff by them and then other things I didn't find interesting at all.
I used to have that Mary Margaret O'Hara record, too. It didn't leave much of an impression.
― Bimble, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Overranked: Sugarcubes, REM, Prince
Underranked: Talk Talk, Sonic Youth, Public Enemy
Voted for: 69 - AR Kane
― stephen, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i might listen to 69, y'all better have a good excuse for not voting HOLLIS
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Certainly one record in this list placed approximately 27 places too low...
-- Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 21:22 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
yeah i agree the go betweens should be at #3
― electricsound, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
88 was the year i started getting into indie. as a result i can't even be bothered voting for any of it.
y'all better have a good excuse for not voting HOLLIS
It's at #28.
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link
bimble and electricsound my office plz
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I never heard that Shiva Burlesque record, but do remember that there was a minor flurry of interest in MM over some of the other stuff that came out on the same label (Nate Starkman). There was a certain mystique to it, I think all the bands had interesting names (Drowning Pool, Red Temple Spirits, err White Glove Test) and cool artwork (was Bruce Licher or involved with it?), but I never really followed up on it...
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Some warped part of me was tempted to vote for the Skinny Puppy rekkid, I certainly spent enough money of imported CD singles of theirs back in the day, and everything I recorded for about a year after I heard them was unlistenable synthesiser-through-fuzzbox noise.
Sometimes the obvious choice is the right choice though, I voted for "It takes a nation of millions..." I still listen to it quite often and it still rocks. "she watch channel zero" was the number that got me into it, I just about wore the cassette tape I had out on that track.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I think all the bands had interesting names (Drowning Pool, Red Temple Spirits, err White Glove Test)
I have a Red Temple Spirits album! er "dancing to restore an eclipsed moon" (or something like that) I really like it, though I'd be quite hesitant to actually recommend it to anyone or anything like that. It's goth-psych that sounds like it was played by cro-magnon men, with intense, androgynous vocals that are somewhat "challenging". I pull it off the shelf a couple of times a year and heavy-rotate it for a week or so and always enjoy it loads. I've never met anybody else who can actually stand to listen to them.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link
That makes it sound both hideous and awesome.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Not saying they're the best, but the only records on this list that I've listened to again in the last 5 years are probably Talk Talk, Thin White Rope, Throwing Muses and the Go-Betweens.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
House of Love too actually, and I still get disappointed by it - they could have cobbled together something really solid with some of the tracks off the German album - Destroy the Heart, Nothing To Me etc. As it is, it starts off like a rocket and then sort of dies by track two.
― NickB, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, never liked HOL. I did get that first album proper. Played once.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I used to really love HoL, had all of their records and everything. It's kind of hard to see what I actually saw in them now, they were a bit nowt-nor-summat in retrospect. Fontana version of "Shine On" still has it for me, I don't actually have anything else by them at present.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh god Scritti or PE can't decide
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and the only non-Birthday Party Nick Cave album I can wholeheartedly get behind.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
8. All About Eve - All About Eve = loling my knackers off
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Never understood how all about ever made it, either at the time or in retrospect. I knew people who absolutely loved them! There was NOTHING THERE!
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Melody Maker = Goth fanzine, is why
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Still, they were good on Top of the Pops that one time
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I ought to vote Butthole Surfers really if people are gonna be all gothtarded about this
Also if Bug was a single it might be in with a shout
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe it's just cacky nostalgia but 1988 indie makes 2008 indie look like dogshite
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost)I suppose?! I never understood the goth thing with them, I mean they weren't actually tr00 gothick, really, were they? If I'd been a goth, I'd have hated them for selling out and not using enough flanger on the guitars or something.
I don't think it it cacky nostalgia. indie '08 does seem to stay within v v narrow boundaries.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess AAE were the proto-Evanescence or something really. Yeah they wasn't Gothick, but they were definitely Celine Dion for your goth girlfriend.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link