Defend the Indefensible: Cocaine

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oh because only "hipsters" do cocaine.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A drug that turns you into an asshole is inherently better than one that turns you into a hippie.

That's funny, milo, 'cause my gf turns into the snarkiest bitch alive on E.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

phil-two, you wouldn't happen to be doing coke right now would you?

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

fyi: never done coke, never want to. i am already nervous, jittery and paranoid enough as it is. why take an addictive substance that will only amplify those feelings?

mike a, Friday, 21 April 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, change that to "some fucking people with too much money to burn"

mike a, Friday, 21 April 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

don't knock it til you try it. kinda like anal

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I bum to friends but if they show a notorious habit of being the person who bums basically an entire pack wtf seriously. We still have cigarette machines in bars in DC! Buy one pack!

E turns me into a terrible, paranoid, sickly person. I have a very bad reaction to it and, yes, become pretty bitchy because I get so itchy and ill.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

don't knock it til you try it. kinda like anal

FWIW, I much rather try anal.

Je4nn3 buttsex (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

phil-two, you wouldn't happen to be doing coke right now would you?
uh no, why?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i know a fair number of people in SF that have beeing doing this like crazy for the past few years and becoming increasingly unlikeable and annoying in the process.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

We still have cigarette machines in bars in DC! Buy one pack!

damn!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I developed quite the habit of bumming in college. This has been rectified by my not giving a shit and always factoring in a pack of cigs on the way to wherever I am going to drink. Take care of your shit, dumb drunk girl who can't understand that I'm married and don't HAVE to put up with your stupid drunken flirtations!

That said, unless I only have a few, I will usually give one up to some who asks nicely. I certainly have bummed some in the past, and have a good deal of cigarette karma to make up for.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I bum so much from my friend Renee that periodically I just buy her whole packs.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm a coke addict.

This is how I feel about it.


luna (luna.c), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

People who bum cigarettes should be boiled in applesauce.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

E caused me to curl up fetal in the nearest dark corner and obsess about every bad thing I've ever done, and everything bad that's ever happened to me. It's great when you're feeling like that and some jaw-clenching idiot that was your friend a few hours ago comes up and asks you how you're doing, and you know that they need you to act like you're having the time of your life so you don't fuck up their roll.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil, you've been knocking anal for years.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

but i've tried it!

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I developed quite the habit of bumming in college.

O RLY?

Dan (LOL) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

... not that im advocating you all run out and develop coke habits.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

its ok, i might do it sometimes if its around, which isnt that often. i know its supposed to make people nasty, but i dont really notice that much when i see friends on it (and i am not, which is usually the case), though there was one occasion where i wasnt a very nice person on it. that was kind of weird and strange

its not something i'd want to do very regularly though

harry galveston (gareth), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

fyi: never done coke, never want to. i am already nervous, jittery and paranoid enough as it is. why take an addictive substance that will only amplify those feelings?

Because they might not? I usually end(ed) up talking a lot and having fun, but never had an adverse reaction like this (and I'm already pretty ADD). I dunno if it's like ritalin and hyper kids, but it mostly just smoothed me out.

Cheap weed, OTOH, makes me paranoid, dehydrated and miserable.

That leads me to a chemistry question I've always wondered about - is it actually possible for different batches of drugs ('good' LSD vs. 'bad', 'mellow' pot vs schwag, Jager vs. bourbon) to impart different feelings and reactions? LSD is LSD I would think - if you're hallucinating, the chemical composition has to be roughly the same.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

What little cocaine I tried didn't fuck me half as much as too much gin does these days.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck off, Perry.

Big Loud Dan Perry's Face Punching Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Because they might not? I usually end(ed) up talking a lot and having fun, but never had an adverse reaction like this (and I'm already pretty ADD). I dunno if it's like ritalin and hyper kids, but it mostly just smoothed me out.

I'd say "DING DING DING" but I already did it on this thread.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck off, Perry.

;_;

Dan (Y U BRAEK HART) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That leads me to a chemistry question I've always wondered about - is it actually possible for different batches of drugs ('good' LSD vs. 'bad', 'mellow' pot vs schwag, Jager vs. bourbon) to impart different feelings and reactions? LSD is LSD I would think - if you're hallucinating, the chemical composition has to be roughly the same.

"Good" LSD vs "Bad" is a matter of what else is in it, how it's made, etc. Sure, the active ingredient is the same, but always occurs in different concentrations (even from one side of the sheet to the next), and all the other shit that can end up in your acid can make it vary a lot. Same with Bourbon and Jager, roughly.

High grade pot and schwag are almost totally different drugs, though.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I developed quite the habit of bumming in college. This has been rectified by my not giving a shit

-+-+--++, Friday, 21 April 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

E caused me to curl up fetal in the nearest dark corner and obsess about every bad thing I've ever done, and everything bad that's ever happened to me.

That's exactly what happens to me when I smoke pot! I've taken E a handful of times and never gotten off on it, although a few of those times involved other substances so who knows, really.

I guess one by one, all the drugs I used to take stopped being fun for me and now I just drink beer. I'm pretty content that way, although I wouldn't suggest that anybody else need to adopt my person habits. When it was fun, it was really fun.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright...sorry, Dan. I'm getting a little punchy with the last 1.5 hours of the week promising to go as slowly as the others did.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

That's exactly what happens to me when I smoke pot!

That's what happens to me when I smoke shitty Mexican cornfield pot. But O! Canada!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

E>>>>>Coke>>>>>>>>Weed.

Nothing against weed per se (stoned people are fine, if sometimes alittle dull) I just personally don't have a great reaction to it.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

"Cheap weed, OTOH, makes me paranoid, dehydrated and miserable..."

You guys are crazy! Cheap mexican pretendica is preferable to gnarly skunk, no freak-outs and "oh my god, my heart, MY HEART!" shit. I go out of my way to get crap mexiweed, just good, relaxing times.

andy --, Friday, 21 April 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

That's exactly what happens to me when I smoke pot!

It happens on pot, but less severe. It's more like bad thoughts keep creeping up on me if I'm bored.

That's what happens to me when I smoke shitty Mexican cornfield pot.

See the thing for me is that I feel like a lot of pot is too powerful. Maybe I've gotten bad stuff, but usually my friends rave about stuff from the same stash. I miss the days of a mellow smoke-out, where I didn't feel the need for anything but music. It makes me kind of antsy and hyper now.

I don't really do anything but beer and/or Jameson any more either. Seems like I'm too old for drugs now or something. Boo hoo.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

andy otm

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, andy otm. it's rare to have a great time on good pot in my experience. it generally either freaks me out and/or makes me completely useless. with cheap pot, however, i can have a laugh, some drinks, enjoy stuff, make music, etc. and feel like i've used the stuff, made it worth my while.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

josh otm & andy otm.

will take the cheap mex mix over the high cost chronic anyday. Now-a-days designer chronic gets me hyped and racy - not the nice old fashioned calm & mellow high. I just steer clear these days and have a martini instead.

never did understand the joy of coke neither. just like 5 espressos with a numb nose and mouth. pfft. too much money for the jitters.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, like I said, it's like a different drug. To me. And I prefer to mix the really strong stuff with some tobacco and smoke it slow, rather than roll up a whole joint of it or (god) take a bong hit. Yeah, that'll incapacitate you, of course. But the cheap weed just makes me feel bad.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

It's amazing to me that no one has quoted Rick James yet on this thread.
: I don't do drugs; I smoke weed.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, that should have said "Cocaine is teh suxx0r. Then again: I don't..."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The post-coke embarassment is nothing like post-E embarassment. Talking shit vs. everyone's my best friend ever and oh this carpet feels so good and ooooh need more water... A drug that turns you into an asshole is inherently better than one that turns you into a hippie.

NOTM. I'd rather embarass myself by telling people I think they're great than do it by telling people I'm great. In my recent experience, cokeheads are nothing but wankers. Some dude got brought along to our place last night, burst into my room where our drummer, a friend and I were sharing a scliff, and basically ordered him to play his request on the drums. At 3am. Since there was no drumstool, he wrenched a chair away from my friend and started shouting at the top of his voice to play a "tune" on the drums.
Only last week a very attractive girl who'd obviously been truffling it up was walking around our kitchen and flirting with anyone who came in, only to put them down and laugh in their faces.
Two weeks ago was the worst. This guy - this fucking guy wouldn't leave even though all his mates had disappeared home and given up on him. "Gimme a beer and then I'll go" etc. He even tried to steal my coat because he was only wearing a t-shirt and claimed it was okay because "We know each other's families" whatever that was supposed to mean. He knew my ex-girlfriend's mum is about as close as we were. I remember him from when I used to work in an off-licence and he'd come in with his pregnant beat-up girlfriend and shout at her and the staff. Total fucking prick. And all these people had been doing charlie.
I've tried it a couple of times and found it doesn't really give me a "high" other than the ability to chat to anyone and everyone about my stupid life. I have friends who've gone through stages and they would basically blank me or fob me off with some superior comment when I met them out and about and they were on it.
My town used to be a nice friendly place to go but now can be a little scary going out what with cokos and their smart alec nonsequitors and threatening attitdues. It's bullshit.

drug latin (dog latin), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

the problem with coke is that even though people who don't do it are making the right choice, you still feel like you're missing out. i don't feel much angst over never having tried being exposed to asbestos.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Just curious, has anybody else done so much that they became over-stimulated and fell asleep?

Yes! The first bump or line make me yawn like crazy. But then there comes a point where I am irrevocably awake.

I know the calm feeling too. It's like my body is vibrating at such a speed that it's humming smoothly and calmly.

One night w/ a certain ILXor who has not yet contributed here I was hanging out snorting big ol' lines, falling asleep sitting on the couch, waking, snorting, sleeping on through morning. Ugh.

It has been 10 months since I lasted used cocaine.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i can ALWAYS sleep on coke. and acid.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

what does that say about my brain chemistry?

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

doglatin, it sounds like you have the misfortune to know a lot of jerks. i really doubt that the people you mentioned would behave much differently if you took the cocaine out of the equation. my friends who act like assholes on coke without exception act the same way when they've been drinking heavily with no coke. main difference is that they can carry on until like 9am instead of 4am.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

lauren is utterly OTM in my experience but now I'm sounding like a broken record about asses being asses no matter what drugs you give them.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

also, it sounds like you barely know any of these people. why are you having wife-beating randoms back to yours late at night? i don't mean to sound bitchy, but a solution to the problem of aggro cokehead monsters taking over your town might be to enforce a stricter back-to-mine policy.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

a stricter back-to-mine policy.

which can be difficult once coke gets involved (see 9am effect)

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link


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