2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

^^lol

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ugh wrong thread sorry

Looks like Lee Atwater.

just imagine i'm making some kind of comment about christopher hitchen's latest piece or something

Lilibet Hagel, Sen. Chuck Hagel's wife and Susan Eisenhower, DDE's grand-daughter announce support for Obama.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jl4RIfcVYSklHSEj1aw8kRbQnW8QD93LD7D00

I have a vague thought about all this -- I think there's a thought going around McCain headquarters that sees the Branchflower report (and, more importantly, a vote on it to release the results publicly) as potentially very damaging. Potentially, not definitely, but damaging enough that she's essentially a liability from here on out. Thus all the end runarounds trying to halt the investigation, which have consistently failed -- looks like the Alaska Supreme Court's going to uphold the lower court decision to let it continue on the same grounds, the Alaska AG has given up on 'you don't have to treat them as subpeonas if you don't want to' approach, etc.

This being the case, this makes this week being the only week for her (and the campaign?) to sow last seeds. RedState had some balderdash along those lines in general, but not specifically about this. It wouldn't surprise me if this was part of the thinking at play.

And I have been amused at the backfiring of the Troopergate stall in general. Far from trying to bury or postpone things, all the tactics just brought it into greater clarity.

http://www.barrylutz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/palinwitchprotection.gif

unsure if this has been posted already: Palin faking her accent? GOSH DARN HON, SAY IT AIN'T SO EH?

not faking, emphasizing

can anything stop white men from beating off in public these days?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810060010

BAKER: And she's got glasses, and I've always had a thing for women with glasses. So, see, I'm honest.

PERRY: See, yeah. So, did you notice her high heels last night?

BAKER: Love those.

PERRY: 'Cause I think she was going all business upstairs and then she just went with the high heels for just a little "whoa, wow, hey" --

BAKER: She's always wearing some, ahem, pumps, if you catch my drift. And that's good. Why not?

PERRY: That's exactly what I called them this morning.

BAKER: Very -- you know what, but women do that.

PERRY: Yeah.

BAKER: I mean, come on. Why do women -- why do women have to turn it down? I think she shoulda had a ---

PERRY: I'm not saying she should have to.

BAKER: -- shoulda had a little cleavage going there.

PERRY: No, I just asked if you noticed --

BAKER: Distract Joe Biden a little bit.

PERRY: I didn't say she had to do anything. I just asked if you noticed.

BAKER: A little action. Show your stuff. You know what I'm saying? Use all your assets. Anyway, 65 -- by the way, I noticed a panty line on her.

PERRY: Did ya?

BAKER: Saw it, yeah, at the beginning of the debate when they turned --

PERRY: I truthfully did not look.

BAKER: -- when they turned to walk to the podium, I saw a panty line.

PERRY: OK.

JORDAN (producer): I have to ask, for all guys, what kind of panties?

PERRY: He didn't say he saw her panties.

JORDAN: No, but he saw the line, though. You can kind of tell from the line.

PERRY: You can?

JORDAN: You should be able to.

BAKER: Are you -- Jordan, it answers -- the statement itself answers the question.

JORDAN: OK.

BAKER: Panty line.

JORDAN: All right, never mind.

puke

i hope that's fake

triple puke

Not that I don't enjoy people endorsing Obama, but who the hell is Chuck Hagel's wife and why should I care?

The Fourth Estate, folks, doing its important work on our behalf

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but who the hell is Chuck Hagel's wife and why should I care?

Moderate Republican Senator's wife. You should care 'cause she's crossing party lines.

u should care cause maybe its a wink wink nudge nudge from hagel himself - i mean otherwise would his wife make a big deal abt coming out and endorsing obama

not really sure if thats grounds for caring but its prob why its being reported

Chuck Hagel is not often described as a moderate. While perhaps more reflective of his constituency than his principles, he has voted a pretty solid right-wing line with notable deviation in some matters of prairie isolationism/populism.

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btw this looks kinda fun

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/23/article-0-01B695AB00000578-760_468x609.jpg

http://www.barrylutz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/palinwitchprotection.gif

angels protect the Palins from poorly-dressed black ppl

xp: ew

why ACORN is a boogeyman

(they're winning the election for Obama)

let's hope it's successful~

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LPR783

I sure hope Falwell/Liberty don't manage to carry Virginia for McCain.

i think we're gonna hear a lot of "voter fraud" talking points in the next month - they're already trying to litigate out of a loss

(and drive down turnout, etc.)

Chuck Hagel is not often described as a moderate

The correct nomenclature aside, he's among a certain number of Republicans who loathe the direction Bush/Cheney/Rove have taken the party toward lumpen-Xtianist-jingoist-diehards.

I know who Chuck Hagel is, it's just that Republican Senator's Wife Voting Democrat doesn't seem like a news story to me. That the story is favorable to Obama is the only reason I'm not more annoyed by it.

It's kind of like you don't even have to be able to read the GOP hivemind to know its dirty secrets with this issue. Or 'secrets', I should say. xpost re vote fraud.

ACORN office in Nevada raided in voter fraud allegation.

I hate to continue off-thread, but it's as interesting for what it says about the GOP as anything. Many of the Obamacons I've read are less in love with Obama than they are really scared of and hate the Palinistas.

shes also the granddaughter of a former republican president

GOP are going after ACORN bigstyle and I truly believe are hoping to pin anything they can on it. What's the chance that this is a nuisance call to the cops that had to be answered?

It could be a test run, essentially.

xps: she spoke at the convention and the corner made fun of her. "anybody know who taft's great-great-grandkids are voting for lol"

if you have ACORN in your drinking game tonight prepare to be sloshed

Hagel is not the one related to Eiserhauer, that's Susan Eisenhower

yeah, that's who i meant

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — The wife of Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel plans to endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Lilibet Hagel has scheduled a 10 a.m. news conference in Alexandria, Va., on Tuesday with Susan Eisenhower, the granddaughter of Republican President Eisenhower. Susan Eisenhower also is an Obama supporter.

A friend of mine from school is a great times infinity granddaughter of John and John Quincy Adams, and I imagine she is voting for Obama ;-)

My mom has been trying to bring up ACORN for ages, wingnuts be saying Obama actually worked for them in Chicago and that they have total gangsta moves. Please.

Also I love that Ayers scandalmongering has been nipped in the bud by an R state senator from Illinois who took the time to point out that the directors' board O & A served on was all about allocating $50 mil from the Walter Annenberg Foundation. You know, Annenberg who was BFF with...Reagan?

Palin: “In fact, every middle-class American family will have a 5,000-dollar credit to buy the health care you choose. Barack Obama is calling that a tax? That’s not a tax, that’s changing health care for the better.”

Hahaha, "that's not a hardened dog turd, it's a magical health care brownie! yaaaay!"

"5,000-dollar credit to buy the health care you choose"

haha this makes it sound even worse than it is! 5k will get you some (shitty) coverage but it wouldn't "buy" a limp dick's worth of "health care"

Besides which, insurers in the free market where this happens will just find a way to make what you need 5k more expensive!

but it's FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS

I've never had healthcare and I've only shopped around a little - my McCain $2500 as a single person basically buys me the kind of insurance that might cover major emergencies (if I'm lucky) but I get no kind of routine care co-pays/prescription benefits, right?

[Removed Illegal Link] continues to get our hopes up:

As the political world's focus shifts to the second presidential debate in Nashville, Barack Obama continues to expand his lead upon John McCain in all of our projection metrics, and now rates as almost a 9:1 favorte to win the election in November.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-107.html

Posted on the LA vs SF FITE OH NO thread, but...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/la-now-prez-on.html

Way to go Shelley, lol!