2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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according to the Florida Sheriff’s Association in Tallahassee, a sheriff is always on duty, and can wear his uniform whenever he wants as he sees fit.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a political statement either way, and a lame one if he thought he was going to unravel Obama's support. But hey, let him do it. The more of this, the better. Let the GOP poisons hatch out.

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

the point, Shakey, isn't whether he complied with the rules of the Florida Sheriff's Association, but whether it's appropriate for any local law enforcement officer to participate in a political event in uniform. it might be reasonable to do so to the extent that the event relates specifically to police issues, but many would object otherwise.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, I never thought he'd get 50% derision for doing this in the Florida panhandle EVER, so that's good enough news for me.

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah let those crazy ofays scream and holler all they want, is how i feel right now

'politicizing the uniform,' i get that, but in a sense it's like, so fucking what, nobody has any illusions about what a sherriff in the fl panhandle is gonna be like as a person.

goole, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

more polarization please. Isolate the GOP more and faster.

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

'politicizing the uniform,' i get that, but in a sense it's like, so fucking what, nobody has any illusions about what a sherriff in the fl panhandle is gonna be like as a person.

^^for real

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

gallup gives good polarization

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

mccain spins wheels, gets no traction

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

hm so mccain's previous turn to nastiness brought a 49-44 race to 46-46. if his current turn to nastiness is just as effective (and that's a big if, considering the first go round included the convention bump, the one-shot palin effect, and the sacrifice of his love affair with the punditariat) it won't even get him near a tie game.

goole, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"“It is up to his discretion. Deputies can not campaign in their uniforms, but the incumbent can because he is an elected official.”

Scott is running on the Republican ticket, and his name will be on the local ballot Nov. 4.

Scott has said his choice of words reflected only his opinions and not those of the entire sheriff’s office or of the residents of Lee County."

He's a d-bag but it's not quite as terrible as some people are making out.

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

... Kristol, who was once Dan Quayle's chief of staff ...

!!!! EXPLAINS SO MUCH

David R., Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think it's terrible (tho i might if i were a black southerner of a certain age), i think it's inappropriate, whatever the law

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

'politicizing the uniform,' i get that, but in a sense it's like, so fucking what, nobody has any illusions about what a sherriff in the fl panhandle is gonna be like as a person.
probably true but I work in federal law enforcement. the notion that all law enforcement personnel are Republicans is false and kind of small-minded. the fact that the sheriff stated the comments were his opinions only is probably the minimum necessary for state level. at the federal level it's an entirely different game (read as: not possible)

Fulminating Darkness (Kitties!!!), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

This Is What You Call a "Drive-By" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

dmr, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

kristolthuglife.jpg

dmr, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard they are all Eisenhower Republicans.

caek, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

shall I?

(xpost)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

^^lol

Fulminating Darkness (Kitties!!!), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.piesnthighs.com/images/pig.gif

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh wrong thread sorry

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like Lee Atwater.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

just imagine i'm making some kind of comment about christopher hitchen's latest piece or something

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Lilibet Hagel, Sen. Chuck Hagel's wife and Susan Eisenhower, DDE's grand-daughter announce support for Obama.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jl4RIfcVYSklHSEj1aw8kRbQnW8QD93LD7D00

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a vague thought about all this -- I think there's a thought going around McCain headquarters that sees the Branchflower report (and, more importantly, a vote on it to release the results publicly) as potentially very damaging. Potentially, not definitely, but damaging enough that she's essentially a liability from here on out. Thus all the end runarounds trying to halt the investigation, which have consistently failed -- looks like the Alaska Supreme Court's going to uphold the lower court decision to let it continue on the same grounds, the Alaska AG has given up on 'you don't have to treat them as subpeonas if you don't want to' approach, etc.

This being the case, this makes this week being the only week for her (and the campaign?) to sow last seeds. RedState had some balderdash along those lines in general, but not specifically about this. It wouldn't surprise me if this was part of the thinking at play.

And I have been amused at the backfiring of the Troopergate stall in general. Far from trying to bury or postpone things, all the tactics just brought it into greater clarity.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

unsure if this has been posted already: Palin faking her accent? GOSH DARN HON, SAY IT AIN'T SO EH?

al kaline trio (dan m), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

not faking, emphasizing

joe six pak (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

can anything stop white men from beating off in public these days?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810060010

BAKER: And she's got glasses, and I've always had a thing for women with glasses. So, see, I'm honest.

PERRY: See, yeah. So, did you notice her high heels last night?

BAKER: Love those.

PERRY: 'Cause I think she was going all business upstairs and then she just went with the high heels for just a little "whoa, wow, hey" --

BAKER: She's always wearing some, ahem, pumps, if you catch my drift. And that's good. Why not?

PERRY: That's exactly what I called them this morning.

BAKER: Very -- you know what, but women do that.

PERRY: Yeah.

BAKER: I mean, come on. Why do women -- why do women have to turn it down? I think she shoulda had a ---

PERRY: I'm not saying she should have to.

BAKER: -- shoulda had a little cleavage going there.

PERRY: No, I just asked if you noticed --

BAKER: Distract Joe Biden a little bit.

PERRY: I didn't say she had to do anything. I just asked if you noticed.

BAKER: A little action. Show your stuff. You know what I'm saying? Use all your assets. Anyway, 65 -- by the way, I noticed a panty line on her.

PERRY: Did ya?

BAKER: Saw it, yeah, at the beginning of the debate when they turned --

PERRY: I truthfully did not look.

BAKER: -- when they turned to walk to the podium, I saw a panty line.

PERRY: OK.

JORDAN (producer): I have to ask, for all guys, what kind of panties?

PERRY: He didn't say he saw her panties.

JORDAN: No, but he saw the line, though. You can kind of tell from the line.

PERRY: You can?

JORDAN: You should be able to.

BAKER: Are you -- Jordan, it answers -- the statement itself answers the question.

JORDAN: OK.

BAKER: Panty line.

JORDAN: All right, never mind.

goole, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

puke

joe six pak (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope that's fake

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

triple puke

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that I don't enjoy people endorsing Obama, but who the hell is Chuck Hagel's wife and why should I care?

ILX MOD (musically), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

The Fourth Estate, folks, doing its important work on our behalf

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

but who the hell is Chuck Hagel's wife and why should I care?

Moderate Republican Senator's wife. You should care 'cause she's crossing party lines.

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

u should care cause maybe its a wink wink nudge nudge from hagel himself - i mean otherwise would his wife make a big deal abt coming out and endorsing obama

not really sure if thats grounds for caring but its prob why its being reported

joe six pak (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Chuck Hagel is not often described as a moderate. While perhaps more reflective of his constituency than his principles, he has voted a pretty solid right-wing line with notable deviation in some matters of prairie isolationism/populism.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i35.tinypic.com/2d89kn.jpg

btw this looks kinda fun

joe six pak (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.barrylutz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/palinwitchprotection.gif

angels protect the Palins from poorly-dressed black ppl

xp: ew

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

why ACORN is a boogeyman

(they're winning the election for Obama)

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

let's hope it's successful~

omar little, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LPR783

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I sure hope Falwell/Liberty don't manage to carry Virginia for McCain.

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i think we're gonna hear a lot of "voter fraud" talking points in the next month - they're already trying to litigate out of a loss

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

(and drive down turnout, etc.)

gabbneb, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Chuck Hagel is not often described as a moderate

The correct nomenclature aside, he's among a certain number of Republicans who loathe the direction Bush/Cheney/Rove have taken the party toward lumpen-Xtianist-jingoist-diehards.

Michael White, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I know who Chuck Hagel is, it's just that Republican Senator's Wife Voting Democrat doesn't seem like a news story to me. That the story is favorable to Obama is the only reason I'm not more annoyed by it.

ILX MOD (musically), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link


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