Miles Davis "GET UP WITH IT" Poll

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That would be awesome. I’ve never fucking heard them despite being into this stuff since about 1993-4.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:05 (two years ago) link

Never saw this thread! Great info x links. Of related, General Electric Miles interest---from a Rolling Jazz 2021 discussion, re my frustration w Hancock-Shorter in Miles Quintet:

I played one of those Legal-in-Italy CDs (from before Media Lord Berlusconi became PM), Double Image(Moon, 1989), live in Paris, 1969, and here Shorter's effective enough, switching back and forth from tenor to soprano, rattling along between Miles and Chick Corea, with Dave Holland and Tony Williams prividing subway momentum--but then on Paris, France(Moon, 1990), live, 10-01-64, the full Second Quintet, Shorter and Hancock are back to being the blurry center I remember from xpost Water Babies and others, although in this case it may be in part the recording quality (which the other players push through).

...another formerly Legal-In-Italy set, Two Miles Live (Discarios, 19??), live in Vienna 11-05-71---boot sites usually say: Wiener Konzerthaus, Vienna (Austria)

Österreischer Rundfunk radio broadcast (B+)

Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); Michael Henderson (el-b); Ndugu Leon Chancler (d); Charles Don Alias (cga, perc); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)
Yeah, The Lost Septet, never as a full line-up, in the studio at the same time, apparently. Here. Miles draws dry ice and other smoke from the fractive frictions of wah-wah, Echoplex, pitch controls, whatevs, revealing passing patterns, indented on the inner surfaces of his glass headpiece, also for instance KJ's organ sustains metallic sheets which his electric piano hand taps more patterns into, while Gary B's alto and soprano go for microtones from the slaugherhuas, Henderson's bass is bruise as much as blues, drums are all around the town, in a supportive way---Disc One has a *bit* more variety, segmentation; Disc 2 grabs me by the back of neck right off and don't let go.)

dow, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

slaughter*haus*, sorry.

dow, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link

On Double Moon, the first one of those mentioned, There may not be any "electric instruments," other than effects of mics etc., but lots of spindly, treble-y phrasing and textures, lots of crackling, crispy expression overall.

dow, Monday, 7 March 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

Really happy to see this material get a lot more love. I just accepted it as "acknowledged classic" and moved on pretty quickly when I first heard it in the early 2000s. It didn't really start to resonate more deeply until the On the Corner sessions box set was released. Something clicked differently hearing those songs in that context and ever since then I've rated Get Up With It pretty highly. Live stuff from the era is always at least decent.

RE: The Bill Laswell "remixes" of this material from the late 90s— That was my first time hearing this material, so when I heard the full versions, it was clear which was better, but the Laswell mixes were at least entertaining.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link

Sorry, enthusiasm has me hitting submit post before I'm ready to do so.

My main point in bringing up the Bill Laswell thing is that it served its purpose with me, as it was the thing that made me start paying attention enough to be to going to the record store and buying Miles reissues on their release date.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 7 March 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

I still think that Laswell record is pretty good (not the Panthalassa remixes album, but the original edit/collage) especially the "Black Satin; What If; Agharta Prelude Dub" section.

Maresn3st, Monday, 7 March 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link

Yeah agreed Maresn3st; that's the one I also meant. I heard the remixes of the initial Laswell "remixes" way later and was wholly unimpressed.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 7 March 2022 22:47 (two years ago) link

I guess there's maybe still confusion as the first record was a re-edit and mix, from the source tapes and the second 'remix' record was shitty. I think poor Teo was up in arms about his original edits being pulled apart, but 'In A Silent Way' is even more enjoyable in its longer version.

Maresn3st, Monday, 7 March 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I never knew what to actually call that Laswell thing.

That's what I'll call it from now on: That Laswell Thing.☺

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 7 March 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link

It's called something on the record sleeve, let's have a look.

Oh yeah, 'reconstruction & mix translation', that's fair

Maresn3st, Monday, 7 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

Yeah, and it's still streamable, buyable

dow, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link

Following the May 1974 Rio show posted upthread, The Heat Warps posted three São Paulo shows from the same tour a few days ago:
https://theheatwarps.com/2022/03/09/sao-paulo/

I've had the May 28 show for a while and never really got into it due to the muffled sound quality. But the June 1 show is new to me and it's STUNNING, probably the best recording I've heard from the Dark Magus line-up. Amazing sound from Dave Liebman's onstage tape recorder--hot but not overloaded and everyone comes through clearly. I haven't even checked out the June 2 show yet because I keep replaying this one...

J. Sam, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link


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