― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Although, something interesting: if any band ever equalled nostalgia without ever even having heard them before, it was definitely Husker Du. They just sound nostalgiac. How interesting that their name comes from an old (Norwegian?) boardgame that means "Do you remember?" (The Wikipedia article was a great read and talks about how they came up with the name. Also in the article, there's a cute song described by the then-to-be singer of Semisonic about his old girlfriend and the band they used to see together: "Remember when you held my hand you used to say I love them so much/Lonely when I hear the band/Do you remember, do you recall?" That this is an homage to Hüsker Dü is confirmed by the album's liner notes, which have the words "do you remember? dü you recall?" written across them in large letters.)
Probably the first and best emo band. Wow, Sebadoh is indebted to them, I think. Just realized that. Husker Du were less whiney even when they were whining, though. They sounded pretty damn macho for non-macho psychedelic hardcore.
― Hüsker of The Corn, Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Amazing how I can still get such a visceral reaction by someone suggesting Husker Du aren't for the ages, even years after I listened to them regularly.
Mould was hit or miss after the Du (Workbook + Cooper Blue, yes; Black Sheets of Rain + FU:EL, no) as the lyrics got even sappier and the production more polished, but I'd take Flip Your Wig through Warehouse with me anywhere.
― Mitya (mitya), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hüsker of The Corn, Saturday, 28 January 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 28 January 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
"for the sake of influence" makes no sense, Geir. You mean like: "Oh they weren't even trying to write good songs, they were just trying to be influential!" Or maybe you mean, "Pffft! They weren't even GOOD, they were just incredibly influential!" Duh, makes no sense. Try again.
― Hüsker of The Corn, Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Once the band got over the noisecore of the early releases, they unleashed a string of amazing recordings that I still enjoy to this day. The Living End might be my favorite live album and I hate live albums.
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link
And, no, I wouldn't say I hate them. Just that, well, I find that their albums sounded more or less like bad demos, not letting the songs come through properly.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
hongro rating production over songwriting shockah.
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I like a kind of production that lets the songwriting come to the forefront. That is, the vocalist is the most important "instrument", and the producer's job is to get him heard properly.
My Bloody Valentine may be the worst produced band ever for that exact reason.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
????
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― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Obviously, their SST records were recorded with a limited budget. Are the vocals mixed low on their Warner Brothers albums? (I don't remember them being so.)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Listening to "Makes No Sense at All," the vocals are clear, guitar is clear, drums are reverby but fairly clear, bass is (for the most part) MIA.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
this is not a comment on the relative mertits of the song, which is great
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
haha i dont know if i can remember a single husker du bassline.
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Any bass you hear in that song-- which I just listened to-- is BASS. And it's clear!! Very clear! I could play the fucking song easily. All that noisy treble floating atop is GUITAR!
Unless you're listening to a 96kb mp3 or something, of course.
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I can't understand how anyone couldn't hear the bass unless they just don't play instruments and can't clearly differentiate the sounds they're hearing. Put it this way: Bob can't play a drone on ONE fret way high up on the neck whilest simultaneously plucking several notes on the deep end (as if a guitar goes that deep, anyway), so the rolling deep notes you hear are bass.
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Why don't you transcribe the bass part toward the end of the first verse and into what I guess you could call a recurring bridge (the "I don't know why you want to tell me when I'm right and when I'm wrong" section) part for me. Every note of it.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link
You're right, though; it is practically mono!
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Tim, you might try getting a record player that doesn't fold into a suitcase and slide under the bed with your stack of Little Golden Books. The notes are not inaudible at all. If I sat and listened, I could easily tell you: A, C#, B, etc. Husker Du would've sounded shitty with a clicky ultra-defined bass tone competing with everything else. You wouldn't know WHAT to listen to. Not right for the sound. This is why it's not a production issue.
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Why don't you go ahead and do it, then? I'm particularly interested in the part I mentioned above. For starters.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hüsker of The Corn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link