2008 Primaries Thread

link passed along to me:

http://community.livejournal.com/seattle/5045218.html

Wow. That's fucked up.
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http://wa-democrats.com/

http://wa-democrats.org/

The second goes to the WA state Democrats website. The first one? The WA state GOP site.

oh boy:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Now_on_MSNBC.html#comments

looks like she's pimped out her leverage.

i saw ann coulter on cspan at the cpac thing and she said she would have voted for giuliani because he would pick judges that would be against miranda rights

-- artdamages, Saturday, February 9, 2008 9:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

for a second there i was pro-coulter; my brain read that as 'miranda july'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMHLI7ypeLQ

Crappy vid of Obama with a megaphone addressing the 3K+ supporters who got stuck out in the cold outside the Key Arena yesterday.

they had one of those specials for McCain a few days ago

Well, just back from caucusing. My precinct had 35 people show up, of whom 28 went for Obama and 7 for Clinton, with 5 delegates going to the former and 1 to the latter, which looked like it was more or less the story for all the Everett precincts. Hopefully that result is replicated all over WA.

Looking at Jergins' post, maybe so.

some people in the comments section say this was planned to be paired with a mccain headliners & legends ep?

At my district's '04 caucus, maybe 100 people showed up total. The theater they held it at this year has 3,000 seats and there were probably another thousand people who couldn't be seated. Very happy to see that.

http://www.komotv.com/news/15440961.html

So it looks like turnout statewide was around _double_ 4 years ago

Also, word from tacoma:

Senor Funkapus (4:16:35 PM): how was the vote breakdown?
c**** (4:17:42 PM): so I guess there were multiple districts there and the split us up into different rooms. my district ended up being 118 people I think with over 70 to obama
Senor Funkapus (4:17:52 PM): neat
c**** (4:17:57 PM): 11 obama delegates and 5 hillary delegates is how it broke down
c**** (4:18:06 PM): to the county convention
c**** (4:18:19 PM): not sure how the others broke down yet

double THAN 4 years ago, rather

It seems they might be breaking it down a bit differently in different places. Ours had the whole congressional district (Everett/Marysville/Tulalip) gathered in one place, broken down by precincts that seem to have gotten about 7 to 4 delegates each based on turnout.

That should be legislative district rather than congressional district, no one had to drive here from Bellingham.

Okay, Obama is winning WA & NE handily.

Yeah, secondhand word is that whatever county Omaha's in is something like 77% for obama.

did they ever say who won New Mexico?

Is your s/n really "Senor Funkapus"? That's awesome. xp

I think they're still working on that, but last I saw Clinton was in the lead.

Is your s/n really "Senor Funkapus"? That's awesome. xp

Yes it is. I needed a new aim name after (i think) yerac & RJG had my old one banned. So i went for one appropriately stupid, and months later San Andreas was released with George Clinton's character sporting a startingly similar moniker.

Never played San Andreas, so I don't know about that.

Oh it's worth it, especially on a PC.

Anyhoo, CNN's calling NE & WA for Obama, who's currently leading 2-to-1 with something like 73 and 48% of the vote in.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NM

New Mexico

Updated 7:42 p.m. EST, Feb 8, 2008
County Results

Exit Poll

		

	Clinton	68,654	49%	13	99%reporting

	Obama	67,531	48%	12

	Edwards	2,060	2%	0

	Richardson 1,211 1%	0

	Uncommitted 413	0%	0

I almost have a feeling that would change on a revote.

Meanwhile in the 'cheap shot but still I snickered' category, on the comments on this story:

Gov. Huckabee is the candidate that I can point out to my kids and say with pride "look, there is our President."

Posted by: cons3rvative | February 9, 2008 02:40 PM

Gov. Huckabee is the candidate that I can point out to my kids and say with pride "look, that guy thinks dinosaurs were pets 4000 years ago".

Posted by: PetDino | February 9, 2008 02:46 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/09/bushs-former-un-ambassador-backs-mccain/

February 9, 2008

Bush's former U.N. ambassador backs McCain

Posted: 08:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton endorsed John McCain for president Saturday, the latest high-profile conservative to get behind the Arizona senator’s bid for the Republican nomination.

Bolton, who was a controversial choice to be the top U.S. diplomat at the United Nations, served in the post from August 2005 until December 2006. President Bush had to use his power to install Bolton into the position through a recess appointment after Senate Democrats successfully blocked votes on his nomination. Democrats cited Bolton’s temperament and brash style as one of the many reasons why they opposed him. Their decision was a major rallying point for conservatives in 2005.

“John McCain was very active and supportive during my confirmation hearings to be the U.S. Ambassador to the UN,” Bolton said in a statement released by McCain’s presidential campaign. “His belief in me at that time was a testament to his courage to fight the liberals in the Senate and vigorously advance American interests at the UN...

xp hahahaha

My other-side-of-the-state WA caucus had what seemed to be a good number of people show up, most of whom had never been to one before. My precinct was 32 people, 25 for Obama, 5 for Clinton, 2 undecided. It ended up being 5 Obama delegates and 1 Clinton one.

Friends who were in another precinct at the same place said it was similar, overwhelmingly pro-Obama.

"liberals in the Senate"

(xxpost)

Aaaaand the Louisiana results are now slowly trickling in...

This Hillary speech at the J-J dinner in Virginia right now is actually pretty good.

"One day, children will take it for granted that a woman or an African American can be president."

Her speeches might be good, but she usually sounds like a non-native speaker when she delivers them.

What is this 'inspiration' you speak of?

Well I'll just say that as many speeches as I've seen her give over the last 1+ years, this was the first time I thought she nailed a really good theme.

she really should have played that line up a lot more ... its not like obama where he has to prove that he's 'beyond' race or something

hey, Dana Bash's fiance getting his mensch on in reminding people of Katrina w/ the CNN-iPhone maps

all three of them

LA exit polls: Obama ~53%, Clinton ~%45.

Aaaaand the Louisiana results are now slowly trickling in...

-- kingfish, Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:06 AM

OK, back from Seattle Saturday:

to answer Gabb's question about Queen Anne Hill waaaaaaay above into the "more result" black-hole..

Not saying Hillary was more popular here just because of richies, but because of large number of richies & status quo types. More than a week ago, I saw many more Hillary signs than Obama signs.

HOWEVER, two important things happened since Tuesday:

* Romney dropped out
* Supertuesday resolves for the Democrats, basically, nothing

There's STILL SEATTLE CAUCUS TRAFFIC... RIGHT NOW

I had to lead a packed bus of caucus-goers on my bus off, because Queen Anne Ave was bumper-to-bumper traffic of other people deciding to drive to the caucus. We all briskly walked over, and saw a HUGE line wrapped around our junior high school venue (McClure Middle School). By the time I signed in, pref. Obama, I went to table with my precinct number made for 20 people, with about 60 people hovering around it. At one point, one guy asked for an informal tally of votes for which Candidate. It sas 9 to 1, Obama. 0.3% uncommitted or something.

Then someone came it and said, "Ok, it's really packed in here. If you already signed in and you made your preference known, your vote WILL COUNT. You can stay if you wish to continue with delegation." There will still a huge line of people out the door, so she was basically saying "If you know who you voted for already, kindly GTFO the way for the other people in line. :D", which none of us minded doing.

It wasn't really a caucus, it was more of a Forced In-Person primary. Even if we didn't talk all that much, it was great to be forced to see who my neighbors were, see some familiar faces, and meet people again.. Normally it would take a tragedy to make this happen. This time, it was a much more positive thing.

People were just PSYCHED all 'round the city today. Definitely a day I won't forget.

Huckabee and Mccain are pretty damn close right now in LA.

Same in WA.

So, I'm reading that WA is 66% Obama now?

If that's the case, then Obama is gaining 26 delegates (i.e. the plebeian delegates) over Clinton from us alone.

if he's over 60% thats real good news

follow along if yer bored:

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov:8090/cgibin/?rqstyp=elcms2&rqsdta=020908

WA current at 68% for obama

richies tend to be for obama, of course

obama wins LA. yawn, apparently.

30,800 47% Huckabee, "Mike"

Meanwhile in the 'cheap shot but still I snickered' category, on the comments on this story:

Gov. Huckabee is the candidate that I can point out to my kids and say with pride "look, there is our President."

Posted by: cons3rvative | February 9, 2008 02:40 PM

Gov. Huckabee is the candidate that I can point out to my kids and say with pride "look, that guy thinks dinosaurs were pets 4000 years ago".

Posted by: PetDino | February 9, 2008 02:46 PM

-- Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 February 2008 01:55 (1 hour ago) Link

fucking LOL'd

I still can't figure out why both Hillary and Barack have used "City of Blinding Lights" as stump music. The lyrics are so weird in that context.