Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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In contrast to the selections whose currents, plot-twists, depths are so well explored by Lily Dale, here's one that plays itself in my head pretty often, something simpler, but distinctive (my comments to a bonus track for personal Top 50, posted in the series of such lists on RockCritics.com):
Bruce Springsteen labored for years on Born To Run, as the title became ironic, but a lot of it worked, to varying degrees–most of all, for me, in “Meeting Across The River,” which still sounds like a magical one-off: a seemingly basic scenario, with no purple passages, as written, sung, and played. Roy Bittan’s keys get room to breathe, Richard Davis’s bass slips through shadows, as it did on Astral Weeks, and Randy Brecker, having left his own purple passages far behind in Blood Sweat & Tears and The Brecker Brothers Band, leans his trumpet waaay out of
Cherry’s nightside window and fire escape (I don’t think she’s home).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6OAtvjSf1Y

(PS: this may be the only instance of Springsteen having a solo complete the song---a trumpet solo, of all things---rather than full E Street and maybe more, as setting for words and journeyman vocal.)(Or same function for small group/unaccompanied guitar)

dow, Sunday, 28 November 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

Lily Dale, anybody: check w RockCritics.com editor to see if he's still taking lists; they're still showing up on there for sure---comments and links aren't required---scottmichaelwoods at gmail dot com (at least get on the mailing list, for some fun reading)

dow, Sunday, 28 November 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Wrote one about "Cynthia"
https://estreetshuffle.com/index.php/2021/12/06/two-faces-cynthia/

Lily Dale, Monday, 6 December 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

Completely unintentionally posted on the anniversary of Roy Orbison's death, which I hope doesn't come across as mean-spirited.

Lily Dale, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

Greg Tate on Bruce Springsteen

Where are all my Negroes at? Why aren’t there more Black people out here screaming Bruuuuce like Dolly Earshatterer to the rear of my right lobe? Could it possibly be because The Boss’s ascendancy roughly coincided with the landing of The Mothership and the rise of another hellified Jersey band by the name of Parliament-Funkadelic? But Springsteen? Man, I didn’t know, fool that I sometimes be. Wasn’t like folk hadn’t tried to tell a brother— Nelson George proclaiming Bruuuce The Hardest Working Man Since James Brown and whatnot, moreso than The Artist even.

But to finally see Springsteen live is to become some kind of believer. First, because he’s truly unruly and got That Thang, which one might roughly translate as the ability to enchant, delight, and power-fuck a crowd for two and a half hours as he did at the Meadowlands Saturday night. Second, because he’s not taking indifference for an answer and you’d have to be dead to not respond to his shock tactics. From his humble and introspective MTV/VH1 sound bites you wouldn’t necessarily know Springsteen was such a stage hogg, dogg. A shameless ham with an ego the size of Bill Gates’s money tree who lives to leave an already hysterical crowd limp or speaking in tongues.

Like David Bowie is the last rock star, guardian of that music’s aristocratic high castle, Springsteen is the last real rock and roller, final embodiment of that working-class music hero whose name and fame got built from hometown roots on up. Twenty-five years beyond superstardom Bowie and Springsteen still impress because they both still take it to the stage like they’re hungry for your love. To see Springsteen in a Jersey arena is to see Springsteen under a revival tent. It’s in fact where his blue-collar creed connects up with his all-American Confidence Man Carny Barker Televangelist shtick. So that you get band introductions being delivered as prophecy (“And the gypsy woman said you need looooove in your life! Introducing Patty Scialfa, ladies and gentlemen! And she said you need rhythm! Max Weinberg!”) and the man’s patented grandstanding on top of Roy Bittan’s grand piano being made into a forum for crowd-incitement that would give Robert Duvall’s Apostle a run for his money, or maybe even the Muhammad Ali of What’s-My-Name fame. Springsteen’s rapport with his folks staggers not only for the degree of adulation present, but for his ability to move them from vulgarity to deep thought in a heartbeat.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

I do not think that the existence of Parliament-Funkadelic meant that you couldn't or shouldn't like Bruce Springsteen. Plenty of people like more than one band. At one point I suspect I might even have liked three (3) different bands

Ennui de Toulouse-Lautrec (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link

xpost you are missing the point slightly
also dude just passed away & it’s a great piece!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link

"Since I accepted my editor’s offer of a fool’s mission to write about some cat I’d barely paid attention to in 30 years of record buying, all I can offer by way of apology is that I’m now catching up on my homework."

Hah, nice!

birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

Meanwhile, Bruce appeared at a Steve Earle benefit show the other night for his first electric (mini) set since I think 2016 (SNL aside), and he sounded good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyR_VpBTWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOGg6IluugY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jVltfkL-xo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evOJmE2OCXM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Jesus I was not prepared for how big mad online people were going to get for Springsteen's catalog sale. Jesus some people are furious that he's not like, giving the songs away for free because he's already too rich?

I guess people are just mad that Bruce managed a (relatively) rare feat in the music biz, being able to hold onto the rights for an impressively large and fruitful catalog long enough to cash out on his hard work. Good for him, tbh, I mean isn't that what every songwriter would want to do?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

Yeah, especially since Bruce is otherwise such a relative purist. No endorsements, not even a Bruce-model Tele, only that one (shitty) commercial that got pulled so fast it almost makes me think it was a stunt, doesn't typically license songs for TV or movies, certainly usually not for commercials, Jeep-ad exception aside, keeps concert ticket prices modest (by major artist standards). Probably better to sell the rights now and pocket the money than die and let people squabble (and sell/license your shit, anyway).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

Let him sell his music and tax the shit out of it is the actual answer here imo. Anyway yeah, it's a dumb windmill to joust with. You're not going to persuade Bruce fans to be mad at him for being rich, that ship has long sailed.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

He wrote actual songs about that ship sailing iirc.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

Your papa says he knows that I'm a filthy capitalist

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

Everybody sells out
Baby that's a fact

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

Adam raised a bitcoin

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

57 Channels and Jim Cramer's On

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

the record company, rosie, just gave me HALF A BILLION DOLLARS

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

Glory Pays

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

the river OF CASH

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

He ain't gonna ride in no used car again, that's for sure.

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Getting made at any artist past 70 for selling their catalog is idiotic. Robbie Robertson talked about this in his Rolling Stone interview when they discussed similar sales by guys like Dylan - to put it succinctly:

"I certainly understand, seeing when some people pass away, like Prince or Tom Petty, and then the families are stuck with a mess and everybody hates one another and all of that shit. It’s not a bad idea to get this shit sorted out while you’re still around."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/robbie-robertson-interview-the-band-the-weight-stage-fright-bob-dylan-1122213/

I guess he could leave it to specific family members and hope they don't license his stuff (and also be okay with administering his catalog as another job - even then that on its own won't last), but regardless, he can't live forever and has to relinquish control eventually.

birdistheword, Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

Wasn't there also something about the economics of the value of catalogues changing because of streaming, not sure.

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

Let's go easy on Bruce. His daughter needs a reserve horse to augment her backup horse in case something is wrong with her main horse

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

Wasn't there also something about the economics of the value of catalogues changing because of streaming, not sure.

Yeah Robertson mentioned that. Basically, publishing was the most valuable bond in the music business - he said he learned from the start NEVER sell your publishing, but that's longer the case as the economics have changed so much.

birdistheword, Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

*no longer the case

birdistheword, Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

I guess the alternative is throwing it all into the public domain or setting up some kind of charity, but I would not be surprised at all if he does some *major* donations in the next few years.

Me and her went for a ride, sir,
And 500 million dollars later…

... (Eazy), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

Let's go easy on Bruce. His daughter needs a reserve horse to augment her backup horse in case something is wrong with her main horse

She's an easy target, but tbf one of his other kids is a firefighter, so maybe they balance out.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

"what may be the biggest deal in music for an individual body of work"! That's really something.

katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

I don't understand why I, as a fan of any of these people, would care if they decide to sell their catalog? It doesn't change anything about the delivery of that music or how I might hear it, aside from maybe hearing "State Trooper" in a Geico ad in five years.

I already suffered through this Volvo ad so I don't know that anything can be worse on that front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FFCBAY4G-g

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

I hear Sony wouldn't sign on the publishing piece until Bruce resolved the "dress sways/waves" lyric issue.

katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link

lol morrisp

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

WELL IF SHE WANTS TO SEE MEAH
YOU CAN TELL HER THAT IM EASILY FOUUND

calstars, Sunday, 19 December 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

so they pulled the two No Nukes individual concerts (released December 24, 2018) from live.brucespringsteen.net to sell the film's soundtrack 2CD (with tracks from both nights) instead? Okay, there is some overlap, but still - both nights were great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Springsteen_discography#Live_archive_releases -> "No Nukes 1979"
vs "The Legendary 1979 No Nukes Concerts" https://live.brucespringsteen.net/searchRes.aspx?searchStr=Nukes

StanM, Friday, 24 December 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link

new remaster & mix though

StanM, Friday, 24 December 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

Plus a film of the performance!

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 December 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

That is on its way, yes :-)

StanM, Friday, 24 December 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/CvHJMtE.png

calstars, Friday, 24 December 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

Omg Lionel’s teeth

calstars, Friday, 24 December 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link

Band photos where one member refuses to play along

; (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 December 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Spotify (sorry Neil) doesn't have any of the many live releases, but it does have those weird thematically linked Live Series compilations. Love songs, covers, etc. They also have this one massive compendium that afaict includes, well, all the tracks on all those various Live Series albums. Fan made? Who knows. It's 105 songs and 10 hours long. Anyway, I decided to play that one, which is like in essence listening to the weirdest set list of all time, beginning with "Born to Run" and flouting expectations and flow at every turn. Still, it's a blast, and it reminded me that for all its innate corniness, I really like "Waitin' on a Sunny Day." I don't know why, but I've always thought the song just kind of ... profoundly sad. Which is odd for a song whose Genius entry doesn't have even a single footnote.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I have a migraine and am stuck in bed with nothing to do. Does anyone feel like giving me a Bruce-related writing prompt and/or discussion question to get my brain going?

Lily Dale, Monday, 11 April 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

it's bruce springsteen, and the year is ___. he can't sleep, so he decides to go on a drive. but his engine breaks down, way out there. a pair of headlights appear from around the curve.

Karl Malone, Monday, 11 April 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

oops, I should have specified no creative writing prompts. My brain doesn't do creative, only analytical. I'll see what I can do, though.

Lily Dale, Monday, 11 April 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

Does anyone remember Springsteen's first marriage? I'm betting he barely does.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 April 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link


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