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Wow, I'm blanking on that title for some reason. B-side, or was that on A New Morning?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The latter. I did not mean to imply that it was on Head Music, though perhaps I seemed to. It is track 3 or so, I think.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

That was an album that I felt very indifferent about, a track or two aside. I shall relisten to said song tonight.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I own the Stay Together EP on cassette, which I played just two nights ago. "My Dark Star" and "Dolly" are de-lish.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"My Dark Star" is extremely frickin' great. I was lucky enough to catch them doing that live back in 1994.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Scratch that, 1995. Close enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

'Dolly' on Stay Together? In truth I don't remember the track anyway - but I recall that ep having title track, 'The Living Dead' and 'My Dark Star', and those B-sides being quite (marvellous) enough. Is this a tape-specific version?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dolly" ended up stuck on the American version of the "Stay Together" single.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link


there's an accoustic DOLLY from gawd-knows-where on s0uls££k. hadn't heard it before. they dropped it from the live set just as METAL MICKEY was about to come out, so it must be 91/92 era.

when is LOVE AND POISON coming out on dvd then do we think?


piscesboy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The twelfth of never?

I'm kinda surprised the website is still up. Did Mat, Richard and Simon just decide to retire and relax?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The guitar on Sleeping Pills is absolutely beautiful, for that if nothing else they should be listened to. I agree that they went too far on album 2 and then lost their way. But I recall seeing them at the Phoenix festival in 95, just after Butler had left; everyone was predicting they'd be crap, it was pissing with rain and the e i'd taken was a dud. Suede played a blinder.

uncledaddy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I love some of the discussion upthread, Nicole and Ally and Suzy all circulating vicious (entertaining!) gossip!

Underrated "Filmstar" moment -- that shift between the NIN/Zeppelin crunch on the verses and the none-more-psych tripped-out chorus. If you will.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The guitar on Sleeping Pills is absolutely beautiful, for that if nothing else they should be listened to. I agree that they went too far on album 2 and then lost their way. But I recall seeing them at the Phoenix festival in 95, just after Butler had left; everyone was predicting they'd be crap, it was pissing with rain and the e i'd taken was a dud. Suede played a blinder.
-- uncledaddy (craigkenn...), November 8th, 2005.

aces. brett in a shirt n tie, first performance of 'by the sea'...sweet.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Dog Man Star was my number-one album of 1994.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

mm and mine. also The Times's album of the year too!

piscesboy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Suede was my 9th favourite album of 1993.
Dog Man Star was my 3rd favourite album of 1994.
Coming Up was my 4th favourite album of 1996.
Head Music was my 10th favourite album of 1999.
...and I didn't even bother buying A New Morning.

Also, I faithfully bought all the editions of all the CD singles, right the way up to, and including, Positivity.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I got them all through "Attitude," every single one. And the story behind that is kinda fun:

When I did my UK trip to celebrate Tom's wedding in 2003, I was invited, thanks to me running the mailing list, to stop by Suede's management office, Interceptor. This was after "Attitude" came out but just before the singles comp got released and, subsequently, the band decided to call it quits.

The band weren't there but Charlie Charlton, David Barnett and Ben Myers were -- all very good folks -- though I think there were a few low-key tensions that probably made sense a few weeks later. Anyway, while there they invited me to rifle through all the releases as I wished -- I had pretty much everything but this way I was able to pick up the most recent singles and the non-"London" Suede editions of most of the albums, rather handily.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm glad that there's some Head Music love coming through. Don't hate me, but "Asbestos" is probably my favourite Suede song full-stop.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate you. Er wait.

I was listening to the fanclub only See You in the Next Life as well, released when the band wrapped it up, and I do love the unlisted bonus -- it's the full string arrangement from "Still Life," minus Brett or the rest of the band. V. dramatic.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Suede was my 9th favourite album of 1993.
Dog Man Star was my 3rd favourite album of 1994.
Coming Up was my 4th favourite album of 1996.
Head Music was my 10th favourite album of 1999.
...and I didn't even bother buying A New Morning.

Ha, for me it was (unranked outside the top 10), 4th, 2nd, 6th, and I didn't bother with "A New Morning" either.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I like "Absestos" too! The "Head Music" bsides can be really funny because every other word is "she," "killer," or "litter on the breeze."

On the most overlooked early bsides is Bernard's rocker "Painted People." I think it was on the Animal Nitrate single.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Dog Man Star best along with some of those amazing B-sides. This board really likes Coming Up and I did too when it came out. I have only pulled out the first two recently whenever I get the urge to play Suede. I need to play the later one to see if it really is just as good as the Bernard era.

Like others I was not interested when A New Morning came out. About a year after the release I found the import for real cheap and bought it. I really isn't that bad and was expecting something much worse. The problem was, just like the Tears, I rarely played it and don't have a complete evaluation of it. When you loaded the CD into your computer you could go to this web site and hear the original Tony Hoffer version of this album that the band aborted.

BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
No love for "Modern Boys"? I used to really like that one. It's a long story...

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
In the "so that's what happened to the rest of them" category, Simon now drums for a Thai-based band called Futon. (Mat and Richard, who knows?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Wikipedia says:

(2004-present) Post-break activity
(Tears stuff chopped)

Alex Lee played a short set with Patrick Duff at the Tsunami Appeal Gig at the Bristol Carling Academy on Saturday 19th February and continued to tour with him. He now plays guitar and keyboard with Placebo. Neil Codling has toured as keyboardist for pop singer Natalie Imbruglia and has played as a duo called Barry O'Niel compromising him and Harriet Cawley. Gilbert is currently the drummer for international band Futon, based out of Bangkok, Thailand while Osman plays for the U.K. rock band Mista Brown.

Brett Anderson also has confirmed that he has a self-titled solo album planned for early 2007.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Mat's name crop up in the credits of a TV show I was watching - whatever it was, he'd written the theme tune. Don't know about Richard, but I suppose he has time on his side.

LC (Damian), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

a duo called Barry O'Niel compromising him and Harriet Cawley

His participation sounds somewhat considered.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus, I'd already forgotten about that Tears business. Now that was truly horrible. Like a Suede tribute band who tried to write some songs to add to the oeuvre, but had no feel for hooks...

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

dog man star + bernard tracks on sci-fi lullabies unquestionably >>>>>>>>>> all other brit-pop but what the hell is up with the first album? the production/mix is so flat and shit.. it boggles the mind as to why/how its b-sides sound so stellar! i only really like "animals nitrate" and "the next life" on the thing anyways..

winston, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i have visions of a rollicking extended full-band version of "the living dead" possibly with the "if i was the wife of an acrobat.." part as a refrain/chorus or something

winston, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

also repping for billy mckenkie while dissing brent anderson = dud

winston, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Both names wrong. Good work.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Reforming! (minus Bernard obvs)

piscesx, Friday, 15 January 2010 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Beyond that one-off benefit gig?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing concrete so far. But i bet there'll be a small tour @ least.

piscesx, Friday, 15 January 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought they would give it a few more years before reforming, especially as Brett has finally just put a really good solo album.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 15 January 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Mr. Butler wishes them well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 January 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Quick note for all -- friend of mine is flying in to London for the reunion and would like someone to go with on the 20th. Drop me a line if there's interest!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

My memories of a lunch.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Brett I remember looking at the menu a bit with a very, very considered air. He looked…not totally unapproachable but definitely knowing that yes, he was the star, or at least a star. We chatted for a short bit after the meal was over and I remember him adding a drawing of his cat Fluffington to the promo photo of him sitting in his flat, so that’s a nice touch.

looooooooooool

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

So the new 2 cd Best Of is out in a week or so. Biggest non festival UK gig ever at the O2 in December.
Artwork for the best of looks like this:
http://artcritical.com/DavidCohen/2008/images/peyton-september.jpg

Tracklist like this:
Disc One:

'Animal Nitrate'
'Beautiful Ones'
'Trash'
'Filmstar'
'Metal Mickey'
'New Generation'
'So Young'
'Wild Ones'
'Drowners'
'Stay Together'
'Lazy'
'Everything Will Flow'
'We Are The Pigs'
'Can't Get Enough'
'Electricity'
'Obsessions'
'She's In Fashion'
'Saturday Night'

Disc Two:

'Pantomime Horse'
'My Insatiable One'
'Killing Of A Flashboy'
'This Hollywood Life'
'Europe Is Our Playground'
'My Dark Star'
'Sleeping Pills'
'By The Sea'
'She'
'Heroine'
'The Living Dead'
'To The Birds'
'The Big Time'
'The Two Of Us'
'Asphalt World'
'Still Life'
'The Next Life'

Good job of compiling the hits on 1 disc and other good stuff on the other. Should have 'Moving' on it mind but hey ho.

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

like THIS rather

http://artcritical.com/DavidCohen/2008/images/peyton-september.jpg

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

'Positivity', a top 20 single, gets ignored. Presumably as the fans only bought it for the b-sides.

Morcheeba, simply happening. (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Disc Two:

'Pantomime Horse'
'My Insatiable One'
'Killing Of A Flashboy'
'This Hollywood Life' Daddy's Speeding
'Europe Is Our Playground'
'My Dark Star'
'Sleeping Pills'
'By The Sea'
'She' High Rising
'Heroine'
'The Living Dead'
'To The Birds'
'The Big Time'
'The Two Of Us' 'He's Dead'
'Asphalt World'
'Still Life'
'The Next Life'

would be pretty much my ideal Suede

or maybe like just Sci-Fi Lullabies Disc One

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, it's a great selection but it needs 'He's Dead' and 'High Rising' so very much

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

b-b--b-but "Sleeping Pills" is ker-lassic

the tune is space, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna plead ignorance on those three in the middle I've nixed - DMS, SFL and parts of the s/t are my jam wrt this band

wait 'sleeping pills' is on the s/t

ok reinstated

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

'Daddy's Speeding' is so great.

sarahel, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^also this, it's the stealth highlight of DMS

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

it kinda is the most evocative of all the songs on that album

sarahel, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link


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