"editors as allies" is very true. most editors want to have good working relationships with their writers. they want a stable of talented, reliable, open-minded people to draw from (and then all those fledgling jelus mofos can call it nepotism). you can't do that if you're a bridge-burning asshole.
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
The ad I answered to get my current job was riddled with mistakes, quite big ones too - a pretty good indicator of how crap our personnel section is, as it turns out - but I think it worked in my favour because I was one of very few people who went for it after realising that the length of the contract was 18 months and not 18 days as stated.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Saturday, 19 November 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
wtf does it mean when it says that, please?
― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
http://homepage.mac.com/mattvant/Pix/TravMatt.jpg"Aw thanks, Martin!"
― Stark Minker (Ken L), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
one starts as a reporter and works their way up :)
what training do you have, emsk? the NUJ runs subbing courses all over the place: they'd be a good place to start.
also: i fear a large part of PA's subbing operation is now in yorkshire somewhere. (or is it lancashire? no, that's northern and shell. ach: subs please check.)
if you want, drop me an e-mail off board (use the webmail link or i'll not see it for years) and i can give you the benefit of my immense wisdom hem-hem-hem.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
No wonder RJG is on the run.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
oh, wank. wonder why? goddamn ilx. never mind. i found it (in my spam folder) and shall reply when sober, over the weekend.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
(And here's a peeve: That scene in Shattered Glass where the publisher makes the whole editing staff go through the whole magazine circling every comma to make sure that each one has a complementary comma to go with it. Which only makes sense when you're using commas to set off a clause, not if you're breaking up discrete parts of a sentence. It was like, the movie was trying to show these wonky editors hard at wonky work, but it got the details wrong.
Then of course there's the move where Drew Barrymore is a copyeditor at a Chicago newspaper with her own office and personal assistant. Oh how I laughed. And cried.)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
you're joking, of course, ronan. but let's just assume that this is a parallel universe and you're not ...
1) i wouldn't trust anyone who uses three dog-dicks to have the first idea what to do with a comma ;)
2) did you ever write a dissertation on commas? 'cos i did. you can read it if you want. no, really. come back ...
anyway. that's not why i came here. i came to say: emsk, did you get my e-mail? any use?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link
this is my favorite movie ever! her name is JOSIE GROSSIE!
― mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
emsk: no worries at all! glad to be of service.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
they're both pretty thankless jobs. (well, except drew-as-writer gets to kiss the cute, with-it teacher at the end.)
― mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
"n06splash.headline has been assigned to you or your group"
[open]
"DARLING I LOVE YOU. WILL YOUMARRY ME? AND TO FILL AT 72PT"
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link
x,,,,,,post.
― Zoe Espera (Espera), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
please forgive
― Zoe Espera (Espera), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
(not funny - soz)
― Zoe Espera (Espera), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
seriously, yes, i shall try to dig it out. in a non-PM5 format. i shall e-mail you soon. or hopefully catch up with you IRL ... you missed a heap of tent-related comedy on friday night.
leeeee: yes. you need guns. and butter.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
zoe: prizes if you spot the mistakes in GF's epic.
― stet (stet), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
grim f: IRL/email, yes.
― Zoe Espera (Espera), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i would always advocate the direct approach. what have you got to lose?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link
not very good ones, i hope. it's fucking riddled with them. aren't most of the x-refs missing?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link