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Theres things you can plan for and prep for that you can presume will go as expected, things you can plan and schedule that you know will be messy and things you cant rly plan for and i try to balance the three i think

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Not sure if this is the best thread, but I was just imagining a device that could help me organize and plan better - maybe just a tablet on a stand is what I'm picturing, but I was thinking about how I have this Skylight digital picture frame thingy for my desk, and what if instead of displaying photos, it displayed to-do lists, punch lists, or planning docs? Maybe I could have like three docs on it that I could just easily swipe between.

Should I just get like a $200 tablet that can run Microsoft Office and a stand? Is there something out there specifically designed for this purpose?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 26 January 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

Don't you already have a phone with a calendar with you 24/365? Or is the idea you just want it to be something on your desk aggressively blaring at you like a lighthouse for procrastinators.

NB I am known to procrastinate.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

Sorry if that came across as aggressive. It just seemed funny to spend that kind of money to duplicate a functionality you probably already have.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

I like the idea and see the value of a dedicate device. However, I just do it on my phone. I use the app GoodTask, which is essentially just a souped up add-on for iOS reminders. I use its widget to put all my todo lists directly on the Home Screen of my phone, so that’s the first thing I see when I look at my phone (which is like every 42 seconds). So basically I have three widgets on the Home Screen, 1) active personal tasks for the day, 2) active work tasks for the day, and 3) my more long term personal tasks that I’ve tagged as #later.

Jeff, Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

The idea is to have something that is always visible on my desk, rather than something I have to make a point of looking at.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

you want a little whiteboard on an easel, or maybe a bulletin board with pushpins

the late great, Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link

i use a gtd app on my phone, but the dedicated device on my desk is an yellow legal pad, backed up every day to an orange rhodia graph paper pad in my bag

the late great, Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

yeah, sometimes I just use a yellow pad, but my handwriting is bad and I like organizing punch lists and workflow in digital docs, but then I also want them in view while working on other stuff without having to pull them up.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

I like "Things" app on Mac - I guess Ticktick is the nearest PC equivalent. They're both based in the GTD philosophy - which I haven't read and don't really understand. But what I like about them as apps, is they both make it easy to schedule and plan without the planning taking over the process. Like, they don't make planning so time-consuming it gets in the way of the *doing* part, and they fit in pretty seamlessly so you don't have to keep having to "make a point of looking at them"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 January 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

(Ticktick is much uglier and better for work; Things is pretty and better for not-work life stuff)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 January 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

i also use things! though i'm thinking of switching to something else, since i can't install things on the surface book my work gave me and afaict there's no things web app (and i don't want to be looking at my cell phone at work too much)

the late great, Friday, 27 January 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

i find the most useful thing for the past 3 years is about 4 4x6 note cards clipped to 4x6 piece of cutting mat. i put only action items on it, each morning and cross each out as completed/periodically during day. each day gets a new sheet, which i must manually recopy (i use a mech pencil).

i don't carry it around, it stays at base. it's manual and physical enough to feel real, annoying enough to encourage action, iterative enough to become part of my routinization. it has infinite shortcomings, but is more effective both psychologically and actually (for me).

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 January 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link

How many things do you typically have to do in a day that require a list? I usually have between 5 and 7, mostly writing to different deadlines or "Call Insurance Company" and things like that, so I just make a handwritten, numbered list in one of these little notebooks, which I buy from Muji about 10 at a time:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0556/8066/3742/products/4550182108569_org_700x.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 27 January 2023 02:26 (one year ago) link

ha, this is true! my case is complicated a bit by needing compensatory strategies due to a severe TBI while getting struck on the road on my bike several years ago. so yeah, my version of ADD and impulsivity often takes me WAYYY off the beaten track if i don't keep a list, even if it's only 5-7 things. it's often more, but not by much.

i'm good at one. thing. at. a. time. it's the transition times between those items that are very very difficult, and if you ask me shit in the middle of something, i may never get back.

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 January 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah, my work and life have just gotten too complex for pen and paper, plus I am constantly moving between home and office, so I'd prefer stuff that stays with me (e.g. via microsoft office 365) even though I don't have a particular device on me.

For example, I might be working on 2-3 cases at the same time, each of which with 5-7 near-term tasks that I need to keep track of (some of which I have to do, others which I have to delegate but stay on top of) as well as multiple longer term tasks/deadlines, plus general work housekeeping tasks, home stuff, kid activities, etc. If I just try to put it all on paper I lose track, and if I keep it in an app like Todoist I just forget to look at it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 27 January 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link

I mean I am able to effectively used outlook/ical/google calendar synced when it's just a matter of keeping track of appointments and deadlines, but that's not that helpful for workflow

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 27 January 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link

I used to use Things, maybe five or so years back, and then went through several different apps until I landed on OmniFocus for a long stretch. Ultimately, I gave up on OF because its organization method was just too overthought for everything. I'm 100% running on Apple, work from home, and everything in my work life is client/project driven. Billable hour/time tracking is done with Timelime, exports out to Calendar, Reminders (stuff like "add a reminder 30 days from now to see if the bastards paid"), and scripts an export out to whatever the appropriate billing option is and into my local FileMaker database of work done.

Project management stuff is a mixture of pen & paper (the black Rhodia N°16 dot pads are my total fucking jam) and iA Writer markdown files. Mostly Rhodia pads. macOS Reminders is also where I put my repeating household "clean kitchen floor," "scrub toilet" stuff. The Streaks app has been really good at nagging - things like spend 45 mins M-F on this or that.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 January 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

I forget when Reminders on macOS/iPhoneOS was recently overhauled, but it works great for my purposes now.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 January 2023 03:36 (one year ago) link

yeah i used omnifocus for awhile but it was just too damn much. maybe if i had 2-3 projects going on with 5-7 action items for each i’d look at omnifocus again

the late great, Friday, 27 January 2023 04:47 (one year ago) link

damn i had such an overdeveloped evernote system back when. It worked but was laborious. I wonder of they even exist anymore

normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 January 2023 05:14 (one year ago) link

Evernote was sold off last November - searching "evernote downfall end of era" will bring up the post morteums. Current status unknown. I used to work with a dev who was all-in with an incrediblely complicated Evernote system that he used for everything in his work and life - whether it was his wedding or PDF processing job workflow code.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 January 2023 06:52 (one year ago) link

I use Todoist for everything: ie across work, home, hobbies, holidays etc. Looking at Reminders, it seems that it could replicate almost everything Todoist does - except that Todoist has a somewhat cheesy productivity levels flattery reward system that I quite like.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 27 January 2023 09:37 (one year ago) link

How many things do you typically have to do in a day that require a list?

Work could anything from 6 to 12. Just looking at today's other 'things' though, there's: shopping, tasks that need doing around the home, finance/bills, renew prescriptions, book tomorrow's visit to textile show, start to research holiday and get dates in calendars, start getting a passport renewed etc.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 27 January 2023 09:44 (one year ago) link


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