2008 Primaries Thread

Meantime, from the hit book series 'Where's Barack?'

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Does anyone know anything about the Alabama 3rd? Is this a winnable seat? Apparently a friend of a friend is making a serious bid it.

If you actually read that Obama v. McCain letter exchange, McCain's vitriol does seem to come out of the blue. Of course, I don't know much about the run-up to it, but Obama's the one who winds up looking the better man.

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Yeah, I posted the McCain-Obama letter reference last week or so on the "shit to stop McCain from becoming president" thread. It's an interesting point the Clinton camp raises. I took saying he was "puzzled" as, at the time, the equivalent of an academic saying they're "surprised" which is basically code for "WTF R U DOING?" Of course if you expect that you might want to run against McCain in an election.. perhaps Obama should have written his response differently because the whole exchange has crosscurrents with McCain hitting him a number of times on inexperience and he seems to concede McCain's points there. Of course McCain comes off like a hothead as well. Here they are:

obama.senate.gov/letter/060206-sen_obama_and_sen_mccain_exchange_letters_on_ethics_reform/

Where does Obama concede McCain's points about inexperience?

Ned grabbed the best pics. The P-I had a good round of 'em.

"IT IS ON!" Maybe U.S.E. should be Obama's touring band?

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man this campaign is some crazy shit

srsly

FURRIES4OBAMA WOOOO

fwow @ mccain vitriol

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows takin' it to the people.

TAKIN IT TO THE STREETS

You can call the Westin Hotel in Seattle right now, where McCain is right this second, if you want to phone in vitriol

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guys, Obama is a mean fratboy sexist. except when he's dealing with John McCain. then he's an overly-academic, kumbaya-singing lightweight.

how many delegates does edwards have at this point and what happens to them?

last i heard he has about 26. since his campaign is in suspension, they still "belong" to him, once he is completely out, I think they are up for grabs - gabbneb?

i'll pass, thanx

Are they good on crackers?

26 might just be enough for him to play kingmaker though?

latest stuff on TV is saying that if they keep splitting states at the current pace, a brokered convention is inevitable.

apparently people are saying ''fuck you'' to WA primary. lol GOP delegates

last i heard he has about 26. since his campaign is in suspension, they still "belong" to him, once he is completely out, I think they are up for grabs - gabbneb?

-- gershy, Saturday, 9 February 2008 05:08 (12 minutes ago) Link

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i'll pass, thanx

-- gabbneb, Saturday, 9 February 2008 05:09

lol

fucking hippies

xp

last i heard he has about 26. since his campaign is in suspension, they still "belong" to him, once he is completely out, I think they are up for grabs - gabbneb?

No, they’ve been freed. They can move where they’d like.

actually i own those delegates - not really sure what im doin w/them tho

joe can i have one? i will trade you a libble invite.

yah sure np

ugh what a crazy year if all this excitement and turnout leads to one of the candidates getting handed the nom in a back room deal. bad things will happen.

also can we get a primary election reform movement going as soon as this fucker wraps up?

actually i own those delegates - not really sure what im doin w/them tho

Add water, watch them grow, and be amazed!

also can we get a primary election reform movement going as soon as this fucker wraps up?

yeah, remember how we got rid of that archaic and troublesome electoralol college?

im thinking party will do everything they can to prevent a brokered convention - baselessly speculative prediction should neither candidate collect enough delegates to wrap up the nom: party mucky-mucks superdelegates et al anoint delegate leader pre-convention by convincing 2nd place candidate to concede due to hopelessness of superdelegates uniting against her.

bad things that should not happen: superdelegates swinging the election, mich/fla delegates seated. im thinking the dem leadership is well aware how much either of those options would hurt their credibility in the general election.

mich/fla delegates seated

yeah, that won't happen. Those stupid monkeys would be scraping their own poo off the walls for years.

I guess maybe that's where the phrase "shit fit" comes from?

by convincing 2nd place candidate to concede due to hopelessness of superdelegates uniting against her.

Ha! I love how the pronoun tells the entire story in that sentence.

Obama is the male Oprah.

Also, you're right, I'm afraid. No, wait... not afraid... what's the word?... THRILLED! That's it. Hillary can't beat McCain, she just can't. He would hulk smash her, and the dems know it whether they're saying it yet or not. I ain't no swing voter, and I would come within an inch of voting for McCain myself. The only shot she ever had was to run against another moron or really divisive candidate, but no, apparently republicans are not suicidal, and they're picking a guy who can actually win.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/08/obama-leads-clinton-by-on_n_85799.html

its pissing me off that the ap is counting the superdelegates in their tally when superdelegates can do whatever they want - it doesnt matter who they claim to support they can change their minds any time - its like awarding an election through polling instead of voting!

according to that article obama is leading clinton in super-tuesday delegates by 2 w/91 yet to be awarded due to slow counting.

id still give hillary a slight edge over mccain just cause of the current political climate - but yah if hillary gets the nomination ill be v v v afraid

joe u got any delegates left? email me?

its pissing me off that the ap is counting the superdelegates in their tally when superdelegates can do whatever they want

They need to be called something other than "superdelegates" for starters, and then their awesome power would be taken seriously. As it is, people assume they have something to do with elections in Japan.

Superdelegates get to choose the next Boredoms members.

y sure max - im looking for guess papers btw

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/nyregion/09about.html?ref=politics

NYT article says "Catholic Vote is Harbinger of Success For Clinton".

Does it matter whom Catholics like Mr. Quinn voted for in the Democratic primaries? By November, it may not. Still, Catholics, who make up about a quarter of the registered voters in the country, have backed the winner of the national popular vote for at least the last nine presidential elections, going back to 1972.

lol this article knowing its ridiculous but soldiering on anyway w/nary a mention of catholics predictive powers in dem primaries.

The Democrats have it exactly wrong. Hillary is the easier candidate, Mr. Obama the tougher. Hillary brings negative; it's fair to hit her back with negative. Mr. Obama brings hope, and speaks of a better way. He's not Bambi, he's bulletproof.

The biggest problem for the Republicans will be that no matter what they say that is not issue oriented--"He's too young, he's never run anything, he's not fully baked"--the mainstream media will tag them as dealing in racial overtones, or undertones. You can bet on this. Go to the bank on it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120241915915951669.html?mod=rss_opinion_main