― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
But... what if that shit sandwich has cream filling in the middle and you won't know unless you eat a little more.Three words: Thats. Not. Cream.
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link
A guy by the name of J0hn L00 who tried to browbeat me into liking them years ago. In every single American high school and small college with a jazz band, the three 'cool guys' in the rhythm section (gtr/bs/drm) have an awful polite groovy rock band together and they inevitably will draft their one even 'cooler' poet/philosopher/rollerblader friend into playing acoustic and singing. This was J0hn L00. He was in the middle of MERELY EXPLAINING to me how 'techno' could never mean anything because it was TECHNOLOGY which could never TOUCH THE UNIVERSAL SCOPE or whatever the fuck he was saying, when (we were on a bus iirc) he asked if I liked DMB, to which I said no I most certainly do not. His respnonse: OH BUT DAVE IS JUST SO MUSICAL.
"hike up your dress a little more/ and show your world to me:" This line insenses me more than any other line from any other song ever. In any kind of just relations among the genders saying "hike...world..." would earn you derision, lawsuits, and a lonely life, and (yank away the curtain of poesy here) "LEMME SEE YOUR PUSSY" would be the gleeful playful die-rect request btw actual living bodied humans that I must believe it is. But alas that's not our world obviously, not yet, and this song isn't helping any.
I can't imagine a line more duplicitous, more violent, more ugly. It's not a world, dickhead! Yes I get it, he wants to nice-guy his way into this girl's pants, but with his cute lil met-a-phor he obliterates her subjectivity and says back to us over his shoulder "dude they're all sisters."
(god this song pisses me off) Anyone who calls your genitals "a world" is clearly a creep and pig and will never go down on you unless under extreme duress and will at that point be crap at it on purpose to spite you. You know that I am right.
(unless Dave is standing behind her which would complicate my er position a little.)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 16 June 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
Is it just me, or should this be Shakira's next single?
― J (Jay), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
Don't forget that you have to appease the hardcore puerile contingent...
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
YAY! I feel like this conversation is going somewhere.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 16 June 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Monday, 16 June 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link
....and that's what I have to say about that.
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
Is this an American thing?
― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link
"Hes a 90s sting. he's Smug. Yuppie music. Hes boring."
to
Hes a 90s sting. he's Smog. Yuppie music. Hes boring.
― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:03 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:11 (twenty years ago) link
And I wasn't saying that I don't like DMB because a lot of people like them, which is the point that you seem to be addressing. I'm saying that one of the reasons I don't like them is that frat boys and hippies like them. I'm willing to accept that this is probably a stupid reason too, and I'm really only being half serious about it, but no one has really said why a band's audience is not a good reason for not liking that band.
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
I thought this was the Wesley Willis Fiasco. But whatever.
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
Oh, so the Dave Matthews Band is halfway between Grateful Dead (another band no one in the UK has heard: it's a bit like the way no one knows a single baseball or basketball or American "football" player outside the States) and Moby, right?
Whoa! They sell flipflops! Just in time for summer, too. Now, why didn't Careless Talk think of that? PS: Ned, I need your column specially early this issue. Like next week.
― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
So does Neil Young - Kermit
― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
You're really hung up on that, aren't you.
Dave Matthews Band is halfway between...
I'd say they're in some hellish middle-ground between Manheim Steamroller, Jimmy Buffett and Kansas.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link
I don't remember ever saying I liked Neil Young.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link
― allison, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link