The Cure: Classic or Dud?

Appearing with the Gorillaz was the lazt ztraw.

That wasn't great, but it was probably the CHVRCHES song, because that sucks at an incredible level.

I protest. (I quite like it! And his remix of it!)

chvrches song is awesome

I've been lucky enough to see them a number of times, including the once with Boris still on drums back in 1992 at the Rose Bowl, and ultimately their very odd dynamic between all the band members remains inscrutable.

Yah, when I saw The Cure it was the Porl, LOL, Phil Thornalley, and Vince Ely line-up playing the UCI gym in 1984. Quite content to leave it there.

the chvrches song was great & robert's remix of it was the best thing he's done in a long time

It reminds me Linkin Park in a way I can't clearly explain, so you guys enjoy.

Linkin Park is also great, even though the CHVRCHES song doesn’t really sound like them

(It’s basically a friendlier pop band imitating Curvw and I’m a-ok with that)

maybe Simon will join Drab Majesty

If they're not the cure after Simon leaves, then they aren't the Cure after Lol left either

I have to disagree. Although a founding member, Lol hasn't contributed to the band from The Top onwards, even if he was still around until Disintegration.

i'm sad about this news but i think like before they will work it out. that new album or two are basically finished so i do expect some new stuff soon.

Bee OK confirming that he is, in fact, the ilxor with the best attitude of all time.

that new album or two are basically finished

consider the source

HI DERE

that's a fine point. over the past several years, every time some tidbit or something shows up in the music press with bob prattling on about all this new material they've got ready to go, my first reaction —every single time— has been, "i don't believe you."

The new double album by the Cure: Choppin' Broccoli

The Cure: Afghan Democracy

OMG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loerauFImjI

Or even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCGPhzWWgco

We know there's a couple of new songs at least since they've been playing them on tours over the past few years, and they're on the big 40 year anniversary show release. But it is notable it always seems to be those two songs.

i can believe him that they've recorded a bunch of new material but whether or not it will actually come out is a whole other thing after 4:14 scream etc.

I haven't heard this CUREILLAZ

(i'm not going to hear this cureillaz)

Cureillaz de Ville
Cureillaz de Ville
If rip doesn't hear it
The rest of us will

The Cureillaz track came out last year and he’s done it live with them a few times (two were lockdown ppv shows, dunno about last week’s)

iirc (aimn) 4:14 Dream is a single album waiting for Robert to write melodies and lyrics and record them, the next Cure album is a double waiting for Robert to write melodies and lyrics and record them, and his solo album of guitar noise is even less recorded than that. and that’s the positive spin version!

Cranes, live and instrumental with Porl and Robert filling in for a sick Alison Shaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0XQI6XPjs

Rather than waiting for a new one, can't the fans go back and reevaluate The Top or something

I ALREADY HAVE AND THE MIGHTY BANANA SONG IS KING

That's the spirit

The Top rules, sorry if that offends

holy shit Pearl in that Cranes performance!

Speaking of rehabilitating unloved Cure LPs, I saw some mag has done a long piece on Wild Mood Swings featuring commentary from Robert Smith. I tried to listen to WMS a few weeks ago, it is surely bad but worse it is boring. Quite liked Jupiter Crash when I saw them play it live once.

holy shit Pearl in that Cranes performance!

i know it's kind of a cure obsessive cliche by this point, but the b-sides from wild mood swings really do make one wonder who tf was in charge of the track list.

(i'm joking; we all know it was rs just like we all know he's been a bumbling buffoon since wish)

i mean honestly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHPl35Sty10

wasn't better than fucking "return"??????

(song in video is "it used to be me")

I don't much agree -- I played WILD MOOD SWINGS recently and loads of it stood up very well. I knew 'Treasure' was touching, but I'd forgotten how staggeringly raw and serious 'Bare' was. 'Jupiter Crash' also one of the best crafted songs that Smith has written.

(I agree with poster Imago FWIW: there is so much Cure material, I'm not sure we need more of it to enjoy them.)

B-sides being good is an indication that a band has written and/or recorded good songs and want you to hear and enjoy them, not that they are idiots, imo

Harold and Joe is better than Never Enough

B-sides being good is an indication that a band has written and/or recorded good songs and want you to hear and enjoy them, not that they are idiots, imo

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:10 AM

and yet, 'club america' exists.

Club America is silly fun 🤗

(and a curio to hear Robert writing such clear, direct lyrics about real experience)

I don't mind that song.

'Harold & Joe' is one I should hear again. Must have had it on the cassette single bought a year after it came out!

'harold + joe' a longtime favorite on my "songs that have inexplicable whistle solos" playlist.

also, wish b-sides ftw. you'll be missed, simon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XqswqTdvEI

("a foolish arrangement")

Oh, the B-sides of 'Letter to Elise' were high quality!

Not that I even own it, but doesn't the existence of the glossy JOIN THE DOTS: CURE B-SIDES make it moot that the band left these tracks off LPs?

(Not to mention the B-sides on STANDING ON A BEACH side 2, or whatever it was called, which I found frequently marvellous aged 17. One thing I loved was how every B-side sounded similar to its relevant A-side.)

fyi Club America is just the worst, fucking terrible nonsense

The 13th, OTOH, slaps

i mean, i've made my peace with wild mood swings to the point that i kind of like "mint car" by now, but they did not put the best material from those sessions on the proper album. one of the singles from that era that i've always thought was underrated was "gone!" it really is a throwback to the japanese whispers material; esoteric, but infectious, pop. they even took it a step further with this "critter remix" from the 'strange attraction' single:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibYvdmpSwDg

'strange attraction' also an abysmal piece of shite, btw.

Guess who's back

Longtime bassist Simon Gallup has apparently rejoined the Cure after announcing his departure in August https://t.co/XQ5DbplRdg pic.twitter.com/ThAmJpnAo8

— Stereogum (@stereogum) October 15, 2021

lmao

He's Si Gallup
The real Si Gallup
All you other Si Gallups
Should all just go shut up
So won't the real Si Gallup
Please stand up?
Please stand up?
Please stand up?