The Cure: Classic or Dud?

Anyway, what's Phil Thornalley doing these days.

Roffle

A friend just told me they saw Lol in the Guitar Centre buying a bass???????

— Roger O'Donnell (@RogerODonnellX) August 14, 2021

All I want is Wish on vinyl and maybe a reissue of A Forest 12”, and a special release with Jumping Someone Else’s Train b/w Another Journey by Train on 12”.

As a passionate fan up to Disintegration and an increasingly dismayed casual fan since, it seems like a good time to call it quits.

A friend just told me they saw Lol in the Guitar Centre buying a bass???????
— Roger O'Donnell (@RogerODonnellX) August 14, 2021

A bassless rumor

Given the band is in essence exclusively a live entity, and given all the line-up changes in the past and present, I really don't see the band breaking up over this. If New Order can go on without Peter Hook, the Cure can go on without Simon. Should go on? That's not for me to say.

Didn’t Roger and Simon have beef years ago or am I misremembering?

As long as Fat Bob is there (and wants to be there) that'll be enough for a vast majority of Cure fans, many of whom probably couldn't even name the bassist.

times simon has quit the band previously (that we know about):

-after pornography
-after wish
-during bloodflowers sessions

and when his son was filling in on bass for some of the band's gigs in recent years, who knows what was actually going on.

i'm upset by this news, but not really disappointed. i think most longtime fans, when pressed, would acknowledge that the cure is essentially robert + simon.
what a shame that it's come to this.

He also quit during or after the Ross Robinson sessions, and I think Robert’s mentioned another in-between days albums quit-and-return this century.

A lot of fans of various groups can't seem to distinguish between "he wrote and played some great parts 40 years ago" and "he is a vital, essential member of the group today".

if i paid to see "the cure" and simon wasn't on the stage, i'd want a refund.

If they're not the cure after Simon leaves, then they aren't the Cure after Lol left either

Yeah I would not go see the Cure sans Simon

(it's hard enough watching anything without Porl)

Yeah the fact that Simon's been in and out, but that a lot of the 'out' times happened during lulls between big album cycles, means I'm more 'hmm, huh' about this rather than 'THE END' quite yet. I've been lucky enough to see them a number of times, including the once with Boris still on drums back in 1992 at the Rose Bowl, and ultimately their very odd dynamic between all the band members remains inscrutable.

What's the "betrayal" he says he's tired of?

robert collabing with shitty contemporary bands instead of him.

(i'm joking. i actually have no idea.)

When in doubt, $$$

He just found out Bob dubbed a 2nd bass on "Primary".

Appearing with the Gorillaz was the lazt ztraw.

That wasn't great, but it was probably the CHVRCHES song, because that sucks at an incredible level.

I protest. (I quite like it! And his remix of it!)

chvrches song is awesome

I've been lucky enough to see them a number of times, including the once with Boris still on drums back in 1992 at the Rose Bowl, and ultimately their very odd dynamic between all the band members remains inscrutable.

Yah, when I saw The Cure it was the Porl, LOL, Phil Thornalley, and Vince Ely line-up playing the UCI gym in 1984. Quite content to leave it there.

the chvrches song was great & robert's remix of it was the best thing he's done in a long time

It reminds me Linkin Park in a way I can't clearly explain, so you guys enjoy.

Linkin Park is also great, even though the CHVRCHES song doesn’t really sound like them

(It’s basically a friendlier pop band imitating Curvw and I’m a-ok with that)

maybe Simon will join Drab Majesty

If they're not the cure after Simon leaves, then they aren't the Cure after Lol left either

I have to disagree. Although a founding member, Lol hasn't contributed to the band from The Top onwards, even if he was still around until Disintegration.

i'm sad about this news but i think like before they will work it out. that new album or two are basically finished so i do expect some new stuff soon.

Bee OK confirming that he is, in fact, the ilxor with the best attitude of all time.

that new album or two are basically finished

consider the source

HI DERE

that's a fine point. over the past several years, every time some tidbit or something shows up in the music press with bob prattling on about all this new material they've got ready to go, my first reaction —every single time— has been, "i don't believe you."

The new double album by the Cure: Choppin' Broccoli

The Cure: Afghan Democracy

OMG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loerauFImjI

Or even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCGPhzWWgco

We know there's a couple of new songs at least since they've been playing them on tours over the past few years, and they're on the big 40 year anniversary show release. But it is notable it always seems to be those two songs.

i can believe him that they've recorded a bunch of new material but whether or not it will actually come out is a whole other thing after 4:14 scream etc.

I haven't heard this CUREILLAZ

(i'm not going to hear this cureillaz)

Cureillaz de Ville
Cureillaz de Ville
If rip doesn't hear it
The rest of us will

The Cureillaz track came out last year and he’s done it live with them a few times (two were lockdown ppv shows, dunno about last week’s)

iirc (aimn) 4:14 Dream is a single album waiting for Robert to write melodies and lyrics and record them, the next Cure album is a double waiting for Robert to write melodies and lyrics and record them, and his solo album of guitar noise is even less recorded than that. and that’s the positive spin version!

Cranes, live and instrumental with Porl and Robert filling in for a sick Alison Shaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0XQI6XPjs

Rather than waiting for a new one, can't the fans go back and reevaluate The Top or something