every(?) jam band has exactly two good records
grateful dead: u knowphish: billy breathes, story of the ghostdmb: before these crowded streets, lillywhite sessions (counts even tho it was shelved)
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
I do kind of like that theory. Like, if you just keep playing and recording eventually you're going to do something good, like monkeys with white baseball caps sitting at type writers.
By the way, the other day, yesterday, and saw a young couple walking down the street holding hands. She was head to toe goth, with black fishnets and a black hat obscuring her face. He was just a preppy dude in jeans and a DMB t-shirt. I assume they were in love.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
my boyfriend is not "preppy," he was a crust punk for like five years ok
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
then he got sober, embraced his inherited wealth, and found dave
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
Don't forget about Rift, Brad!
Also, I had never seen the location of the poo dumping before. I don't know why, but I had always imagined it from a more significant elevation. Like, "oh, the boats look like tiny little dots down there - we just didn't see them." Maybe at the edge of a cliff. Obviously not taking into account Chicago's geography. Nope, that was just right on their heads. Wow!
― wankee hotel fuckstrot (peace, man), Monday, 9 August 2021 10:57 (two years ago) link
I'll plug Ryley Walker's cover of the Lillywhite album, it's really good even if you hate Dave.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 August 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link
Before These Crowded Streets is darker-edged than most of his stuff, I like "Don't Drink the Water", which has his attempt at death growls
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link
Death Matthews Band would be kinda cool
the alanis morissette feature on "spoon" is my favorite singing she's ever done
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 9 August 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
in fact most of the guests on that record add a lot to it, cf. kronos quartet on "the stone," his best song
i will say i dislike the goofier musical interludes on the album but it's a tapestry man
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 9 August 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
So Brad did hear the Ryler Walker album jon mentioned?
― Evan, Monday, 9 August 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
did you*
yes i thought it was really good!
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 9 August 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link
IIRC Steve Lillywhite was the producer for Billy Breathes as well
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 9 August 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link
I am billy breathing
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 August 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:54 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
lmao, these posts have a deeply comforting familiarity to them.
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 9 August 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
the narrator from The Stone is singing to his inherited wealth
― "Rocky Top" and "Funky Bitch" are songs I never look forward to (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 August 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link
A Dave-head coworker posted the lyrics of “Don’t Drink the Water” (in honor of Indigenous Peoples’ Day), but the title just made me think of when they dumped poop in a river.
― juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
LOL
Weirdly enough, I love "Under the Table and Dreaming" and "Crash". And I shall not be moved.
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link
haha hard not to make that association.
I started listening to Crash the other night after reading that (pretty good, actually) Sunday Review at Pitchfork, and was shocked to know how much of that still lives in my head even though I hadn't listened to it in probably 20 years. That album was inescapable for me, given that I was a sophomore at a Big Ten school when it came out and 95% of the people I hung out with loved DMB. I went to quite a few shows while I was in school, mostly out of obligation to my friends and it being just "the thing we did", but completely quit listening to DMB pretty much the instant I graduated, not even intentionally, I just couldn't be bothered.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
I didn't know they did a Sunday review for "Crash". Thank you for alerting me, and good on them.
Link is here for those who are curious https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/dave-matthews-band-crash/amp/
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link
"Crash" remains an album that I feel is unfairly overlooked because of the anti-DMB stigma. Terrific album, not one bad song.
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
My pal around the time of peak Dave Matthews just could not fathom how that dude managed to retain a musician as good as Beauford.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
I mean, cynically, $$$$$ but also maybe he genuinely liked what he was playing?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
i think crash is kinda uneven, feel like i can name a few songs i dislike on it. the singles are crazy tho
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
partic "too much"
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
I EAT TOO MUCHI DRINK TOO MUCH
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
i also loved "two step" so much in middle school
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
"Proudest Monkey" is a go-to road trip song for me.
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
don't drink the waterDon't drink the waterThere's blood in the waterDon't drink the WA-EE-YUH-EE-YUH-EE-YUH-AAAAHH
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
Did I ever tell the story of a friend of a friend who was on a benefit bill with Dave Matthews? They were hanging out backstage and Dave of course was a nice dude, but, more shocking to this person, talked like a regular low-voiced human being. But then the second he went onstage he suddenly shifted into "Kermit the Frog" mode.
Reminds me of a time I saw Neil Young, and he hilariously mumbled between songs, "I bet you're wondering how this voice speaking right now can be the same one you've been hearing singing those songs."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
It embarrasses me to remember I once found this guy cute.
But he was kinda cute until 2001, yes?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link
no
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
now even in his older pics he looks like a bellybutton left on a log
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
I mean, I knew at least a few dozen girls circa 1996 that would say he was.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
is Luther College even a real place? is it exclusively for chiropractors?
― balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
Yeah, it's a Lutheran liberal arts college in Iowa.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
very upset, revisiting crash, to realize i like "#41" as much as i ever did lol
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
also the beginning and end of "two step" is so cool, i think i unconsciously hoped they would move further into that doomy and atmospheric sound. which they sort of did, until they made an album with glen ballard
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
ugh listening to the lillywhite sessions now
this is the best album ever
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
"captain" and "big eyed fish" are among the best songs dude ever wrote
and busted stuff may exist but it doesn't have my favorite song "jtr" on it (and the band apparently hated "jtr" the most of the material????)
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:16 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the back half of that song is special
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
oh yeah i said it already
I love the (3+ minute) coda on #41 through the intro of Say Goodbye.― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:24 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:24 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
i think "bartender" is the only extended dmb studio cut that doesn't make me feel like it's weird that they're a jam band
then again i think a binding feature of jam bands is possibly that, excepting the allman brothers, they're never really bands you would want or expect to be jam bands, it's always like, "these guys? playing this music? ok i guess"
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
I have been revisiting the work of DMB myself of late, driven by the 60 Songs That Explain the 90s episode on "Crash" and the Bandsplain episode featuring Grayson Haver Currin (who wrote the Sunday Review) - I would highly recommend both, especially the latter. There are many good observations and insights throughout the two. Some of the ones that are most memorable:
- The band's unique diversity, especially for the time- Matthews' ability to write approachable acoustic guitar driven pop songs that a totally average player could manage to learn--paired with the well-documented musicianship of drummer Carter Beauford, bassist Stefan Lessard, and the many talented guests they've surrounded themselves with over the years (e.g., Tim Reynolds, Bela Fleck, Trey Anastasio, etc.)--make them sui generis; they are not a jam band, so much as a pop band with jam band ambitions, while most jam bands (e.g., Phish) tend to be the opposite- Matthews' international upbringing and personal/family struggles have occasionally manifested in inspired writing, most notably "Cry Freedom", which Currin writes eloquently about in the Sunday Review: "Though written about apartheid after its end, the song feels prescient for the United States 25 years later, a smoldering lament for a country of Blue Lives Matter banners that flap even as state-sponsored violence rages on. It is a salient reminder to be a witness, even if you’re not a savior."- Their incredible longevity and popularity - Under the Table & Dreaming hit #11 in 1994, Crash hit #2 in 1996, and all of their studio albums since--7 albums over 20 years--have hit #1
Upon re-listens, Live at Luther College and Before These Crowded Streets hold up and stand out as the best of their pre-Stand Up catalog in my book.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
Also agree "#41" is his best song.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
that all seems v otm
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
when I was more into DMB I liked #41 a lot. my friend was into that same one too when he was more of a DMB head.
he is getting divorced and his ex-spouse and step-daughter moved away and went to Illinois, leaving him alone for the first time in like a decade.
he got drunk and recorded himself playing and singing a bunch of songs, and "#41" was one of them. it was a rendition akin to watching someone's soul leave his body while still being alive.
his version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMB's.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
sad lol
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link