can someone show me a NEW shoegaze band

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I think most bands these days that are labelled "shoegazer" would be better suited to "slowcore" or "dream-pop" labels.

Labelling is wrong.

Coldplay have certainly been influenced by Catherine Wheel, My Bloody Valentine and other bands like that, but that's not to say they're a shoegazer band.

I guess this is a semantical debate. Shoegazer, to me, isn't about an "atmospheric aesthetic", it's much more specific than that.

I declare 2004 the year of the Shoegaze. I'm chinese for sake of argument. With all the discussion around here about it in the last month or so I feel Congress will agree.

A firecracker parade will follow.

this thread is good now

www.theearlies.com

I will now check out melodic.com

I would click the "Free Sample Issue" button on the side and see what happens.

This zine is run by Ryan Anderson who used to play with Fuxa back in the old Michigan space rock days. Each issue comes with a free cd comp that is mostly showgaze and space rock. If you are interested in that sound they are very worth picking up. Ryan keeps the prices dirt cheap, they cost $7.20 a piece and that covers the shipping.

If you do decide to pick up back issues I would recommend that you start with issue three and work your way forward. The first couple issues were a bit patchy but they got better with every following issue.

As far as bands go, I would recommend looking into Tristeza/The Album Leaf, Cerberus Shoal, Landing, Hinterland, and Tex La Homa. ESOJ's(the surface noise) and Ned's picks are both completely otm and I would have recommended them myself if they had not beaten me to the punch.

Readymade isn't exactly new. They were sending out annoying promo stuff 6/7 years ago.

The Meeting Places as well...reasonable enough rotegaze.

M83, now lemme tell ya, I guess I enjoyed the album the one time I heard it, but that was six months ago and I haven't felt any need to listen again.

Everyone should hear the new For Against.

"brutalized by distortion blankets" is a good way to describe TAGABOW, who rule.

i thought the last Hotline TNT album (Nineteen In Love, below) was a close cousin to TAGABOW, but this new one seems quite a bit "cleaner" ... admittedly, i have only listened once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rFAFl4iK9U

Not sold on HTNT - feels pretty generic - but what really turns me off is the lifeless mastering, could this be an Apple Music issue?

True the last one definitely felt closer. In general the whole Smoking Room Label roster has a similar sound

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Intrigued by this article about Filipino shoegaze/dream pop. Anyone familiar, have recommendations?

https://billboardphilippines.com/culture/scenes/the-most-popular-genre-youve-never-heard-of-filipino-shoegaze-and-dreampop/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

not new but +/- always had a shoegaze side to them*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yWSCmIBbbM

*James Baluyut of versus

More ideas here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0jm5fk2JbnfgdpwWuQmc40?si=622df9e80e874390

About Filipino shoegaze, I mean.

hotline tnt album sounding like an instant classic to me

― flopson, Saturday, November 4, 2023 12:30 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

still playing this all the time. love it lots

https://www.stereogum.com/2245469/tiktok-has-made-shoegaze-bigger-than-ever/columns/sounding-board/

are we talking about this anywhere else?

saw it this morning

very curious

the tiktok angle is strong and solid, sure, but ambient also seems very in vogue with gen z, and that's not, to my knowledge, tiktok related

I feel there must be pre-SoMe examples of generational genre revivals

As the fairly-thorough article intimates, there is more than one shoegaze, and the sort to go properly viral is the sleepier, more drain rap /vibesy beats adjacent sort, because idk young people have been traumatised by internet exposure and need to numb the pain of existence or something, but it's cool to note that some actually good shoegaze is rising up alongside the dirges (for example it's nice to see Jane Remover get a shoutout, although I'd actually describe her stuff as kind of a bridge between numbgaze and something more structured and lively - the Best Draingazer lol)

'actually good shoegaze' = 'shoegaze that still remembers to be psych-rock/pop'

the big thing i don't understand is how duster (though they're not shoegaze) ended up with a such a following among younger people. when are low going to have a tiktok hit

i'm pretty sure beach house's "space song" was originally a youtube algorithm thing? or it was used in a tv show (years ago, not wednesday)? its popularity predates tiktok anyway i'm pretty sure

most of the stuff in that article is just 'we have deftones and hum at home' idk

To really generalize it, Duster and shoegaze seem like just the sort of rock that would catch on with a generation that doesn’t really respect or like to rock.

And by respect I don’t mean show fealty to the rock gods, they just don’t seem interested in some of the sensations wild or abrasive rock n roll can provide. Or at least not without interrogating it to the point that they can’t.

Slowdive seems far bigger with the youth than with their contemporaries.

I like this a lot, best Vondré track yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdlcmzP0Gi8

the big thing i don't understand is how duster (though they're not shoegaze) ended up with a such a following among younger people.

― ufo, Wednesday, December 20, 2023 6:50 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think it's because they capture a particular mood through their music that resonates with that demo... a blend of zoned-out and deep-feeling that carries a ton of weight without any melodrama. Poignant bliss that never gets too sappy. Slowdive deliver that kind of thing too.

But there are a million 90s bands that can be described exactly that way. Don't get me wrong, Duster's cool and I think Stratosphere (which I only heard for the first time last year) is a good record, but weren't they at best like a fourth tier slowcore band at the time? Like I knew a lot of Codeine and Bedhead and even Rex fans back in the day and I don't recall any of them ever even mentioning Duster. The randomness of the algorithm is a mysterious thing

numero put out that box set in 2019, maybe gave the band some mystique from the perspective of young folx

i think duster was hyped on /mu but at this point i'm guessing 4chan et al is more of a milennial thing

Well once their cult following gained momentum it totally snowballed, so at a certain point along the way they're benefitting from that effect, but I do believe their approach has something indescribable about it that hits differently than those other examples. Something about how they handle melody and sound design. I do hear a lot of variation across those bands you mentioned, but the stylings of newer bands in the genre are closest to Duster. It's hard to pin down.

But yes Duster was not a big deal when they came out at all. I picked up Stratosphere on vinyl for cheap in ~2010 or so and they still hadn't been rediscovered yet.

It's kinda cool how with any scene, some bands reputation resonate with subseq

somewhat related to the revive Cigarettes After Sex

speaking of Rex, tho not a shoegaze band— the Numero reissue of “C” this year was my intro to them, i fuck with this stuff so hard.

as far as the HTNT record— I like it a lot but I do sense some really weird production issues. the bass is muddy af, and at times the vocals are much more buried than at others— really inconsistent production-wise.

that said i still think it’s an excellent record

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It's kinda cool how with any scene or movement, some bands' reputations bubble up with subsequent generations. Also, originators don't always become the ones who resonate the longest.

"ignored at the time of release, so and so was discovered years later by collectors and quickly developed a massive cult following" is hardly a new phenomenon

imago, you listen to Beyond Dawn? such a weird discography. i figured if anyone did here it would be you. cuz you weirdo. i've been listening to the last album on vinyl. they started out as 90s norwegian metal and then ended up being...whatever it is they ended up being.

this is from the last album. which is why i thought of you. hahaha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnu8KW1MVk

even in the mid-90s they were already weird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4UceAHwqo

their first tape was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPXREnG7dY

anyhoo, carry on shoegazing shoegeezers!

Ooh ty will give that a whirl!

All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavours are the great underrated 90s shoegaze band and Kairon; IRSE the great underrated one now, among others ofc

Cigarettes After Sex are the single worst band in the world. I hate them with a passion you can only guess at

(and if you want something in between those eras, Coaltar Of The Deepers should be much, much bigger with The Kids than they are imo!)

kairon; irse is proggier/psychier than any of the original blend shoegaze bands imo. good stuff tho

speaking of 'we have [x] at home', this Bloody Comeback song is Ulver at home lol (I am enjoying it)

but yeah where are the kids trying to sound like this ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlJwXe4dmSc

i still have my copy of turning into small. such a great mesh of my stereolab valentine. thy did it best in the states.

have put Frysh on, it's sounding quite interesting, excellent Y2Kwave (see also that one Fireside album)

we are however massively off-topic lol

Pitchfork w/their 2023 shoegaze revival article
https://pitchfork.com/features/article/the-shoegaze-revival-hit-its-stride-in-2023/

It has long seemed to me like the shoegaze approach to rock that has never dated or gone on a downswing, unlike the genres that it rose from -- goth, jangle, NYC noise, post-hardcore. Maybe because it has always sat in a sweet spot just below mainstream, accumulating interest as listeners age into it, hooks always buried enough you have to search for them. I don't really associate it with a generation or a wave. Like, when the UK music press tossed it aside, it was just getting going in the US.

I remember feeling a bit superior about that at the time, the landmark MBV/Ride/Slowdive albums had been and gone - with just the occasional mention of the term as an arch callback to its original put-down usage - and then the US was all “hay guys I looooove shoegaze” and lots of not-really-relevant or second-rate bands being picked up seemingly at random.

i was way into it and it woulda happened if it wasn’t for that meddling grunge. but all grunge did was push shoegaze just under the surface where it’s festered and now it is a wonderful ubiquitous toxic algae bloom.

Concrete Avalanche posts a pretty good intro guide to Chinese shoegaze https://jakenewby.substack.com/p/a-beginners-guide-to-chinese-shoegaze