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One of these days I really hope they put out at least those first two 7's as a CD. I'd buy one. I recorded mine off of my old dodgy turntable and burned a disc, but it kind of sounds lame. "Wingwalker" and "Doris" are two of their best songs.

earlnash, Thursday, 19 June 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

Blonde Redhead has recorded a new album and is talking to several record labels.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

(I know this 'cause I recorded my recent one at the studio where Blonde Redhead records & the studio people are pals with them - they say the new stuff's unbelievable but unfortunately I was unable to get to hear any of it)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

Todd's back problems were reported on the Southern site a while back, they were cos of an accident.

mei (mei), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:50 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I just pulled out At Action Park after not listening to it for a while. TOTALLY CLASSIC.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

: )

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

amen, brother!

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

still waiting for that new album Shellac...I've heard a lot of work has been done on it...no release date though...I'm wondering if the death of Loder who usualy masters their stuff is holding things up now....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

from the Touch & Go site:

"Membership:
Steven Frank Albini - electric guitar
Todd Stanford Trainer - drum set
Robert Spurr Weston IV - electric bass guitar

Band information:
While there is no specific coordination between Shellac's record
releases and touring schedules, you can expect the band to tour at
its usual sporadic and relaxed pace.

Current:
Shellac will have a new LP anytime between now and 2007."

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

this came up during the question and answer period of the show yesterday. Weston said the new material is almost all recorded, but they hadn't even begun to think about packaging yet and that "could take a while."

the cheshire fucking cat (chëshy f cat), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

>they hadn't even begun to think about packaging yet and that "could take a while."

The new record will be an edition of one, packaged inside a car a la Merzbow. The delay comes from designing a system of gyros so the vinyl won't skip while the car is in motion, because it'll be vinyl-only, of course.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

pdf OTM *roffle*

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Trainer opined that a 12" jewel box would really make the product stand out at Wal-mart.

chëshy (chëshy f cat), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i hope they do what they did for 1000 hurts, where you got the vinyl box, it came with a loose CD pressing of the record...that was a great deal...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, wasn't John Golden in L.A. the guy who mastered their stuff to date, and not John Loder? (Sorry to be pedantic at the expense of Loder, R.I.P.)

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Golden has doen many Albini and Weston recordings, but Loder mastered all the Shellac records.

I'm sure the new record will be worth the wait when it is finally released

chris besinger (chris besinger), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

If "The End Of Radio" is any indication, I agree.

Damn. I was hit hard when i heard the news of Loder, and now I'm still getting hit. :(

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

2009 tour dates

05/13/09 - Vera, Groningen, Netherlands
05/14/09 - Paradiso, Amsterdam, Netherlands
05/16/09 - Butlins Holiday Center, Minehead, United Kingdom - with ATP Festival
05/17/09 - Butlins Holiday Center, Minehead, United Kingdom - with ATP Festival
05/29/09 - Primavera Sound Festival, Barcelona, Spain
06/11/09 - Vera Project, Seattle, WA
06/13/09 - Berbati's Pan, Portland, OR
06/14/09 - Berbati's Pan, Portland, OR
06/15/09 - W.O.W Hall, Eugene, OR
06/17/09 - Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA
06/18/09 - Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA
06/20/09 - Echoplex, Los Angeles, CA
06/21/09 - Echoplex, Los Angeles, CA
06/25/09 - Varsity Theater, Minneapolis, MN

(note: shellac are playing Vera on the 6/12 as well. Arcwelder is opening. I am really really excited.)

bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Go forth and rock.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

why on earth do they wanna play the W.O.W. hall, good Lord

Cindy Sherman I'm Your #1 Fan (J0hn D.), Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

once again (as i believe you posted on their previous stop in seattle) ,thanks for the advance notice. making plans to catch the vera show again.

drone/a/sore, Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay, W1ll! I know a lot of folks from Vancouver are already planning this out. (I think most of the audience at the last stop were from BC. When Bob asked for bills, I forget the joke that prompted that, most everyone held up $CDNs)

BTW, The Vera has moved since 2005. It's actually in the Seattle Center now, just blocks away from Easy Street Records in Lower QA, right next to where the QFC used to be. 1st Ave N and Republican St. are the nearest cross streets. It's also a much bigger and kinda weirder space.

bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"why on earth do they wanna play the W.O.W. hall, good Lord"

Some of the most classic concerts of my life, I saw at WOW Hall.

Fugazi on the Repeater tour with Beat Happening and Calamity Jane.
Melvins on Eggnog tour (Joe Preston on bass). Also again for Lysol (Lorax on bass).
Jesus Lizard on the Liar tour with Jon Spencer opening.
Alice Donut on Untidy Suicides tour.
Thinkin Fellers with Mudwimmin.
Nomeansno on the Wrong tour with Victim's Family.

And more recently, Isis with Mogwai.

I kick myself now for not going to Sleep on Holy Mountain tour supporting Hawkwind.

Nate Carson, Monday, 9 March 2009 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

got my ticket for the june 11 show,,,,trying to wangle a way to see bat for lashes the night before at the crocodile.

drone/a/sore, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

btw,shellac has added a june 12 vera show.

drone/a/sore, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I got a ticket for both. ^_^

bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

todd trainer on animal planet o_O and awesome

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWrVQTlonc

Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Amazing!

Wax Cat, Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG that was awesome. though todd trainer seems like a truly weird dude.

the architecture of horniness (askance johnson), Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

That's amazing. It's good to see that Albini can drop the cynicism, misanthropy and sarcasm when it counts. On a dog owner's program.

Doran, Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah in the spring and summer sometimes i would look out my office window and see todd, all vampirish in black, walking his lil' doggie around, so cute.

i don't know him but i've found that everyone i know who has actually dealt with or knows albini IRL says he is super nice and awesome...people that say "oh he's such a dick" tend to not know him irl.

Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I was joking. I've heard that Albini is actually a pretty nice guy if you meet him. It was more how he usually comes across in interviews that I was talking about.

Doran, Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome video!! wonder if uffizi tours with 'em.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

This will be messy:
http://www.atpfestival.com/events/shellacny.php

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Noon! I can see lots of people buying tickets for that and not making it.

kraudive, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Coming to my hood. Still worth seeing live?

uhhhhhh (admrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

yes! (if you like shellac)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Saw the 20th anniversary show in Minneapolis over the weekend. It was great.

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

line-up for their ATP this December currently looking great:

Shellac Of North America
Neurosis
Wire
Mission of Burma
Oxbow
Nina Nastasia
Melt Banana
The Ex + Brass Unbound
Mono
Shannon Wright
Zeni Geva
Arcwelder
Scrawl
Uzeda
Bottomless Pit
Prinzhorn Dance School
Three Second Kiss
Pinebender
Red Fang
The Membranes
Buke and Gase
Dead Rider
Helen Money
Bear Claw
ALiX
STNNNG
+ more TBC

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

so did i mh! had a blast....

btw STNNNG marks the first time a participant in ILX Pre-Covers LULU makes an appearance at ATP

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Little Dog" is coming to the UK!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

I wasn't quite in the right headspace for STNNNG when they were on, but I think that's more due to me than anything about the band! I was kind of thrown off by a lot of things, having just been in a car and then getting dinner having a lot to do with it.

your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

I need to give their post-At Action Park catalogue another chance

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

what they need to do is release some sort of definitive amazing live album.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

“Dude Incredible”
One word: “monkeys”

It’s about the group dynamics of trying to get something done with a group of people. Somebody ends up having to behave like a ringleader and then there’s debate and all of the counties have to be heard from and then, eventually, there’s a move where everybody’s suitably motivated and you go off and do something. But along the way there are circumstances and ultimately you get to a resolution where you complete your enterprise or whatever.

“Compliant”
One word: “compulsive”

The text of the song is an abstraction that Bob came up with of the things that someone who is suffering obsessive compulsive disorder has to do just to get through his day. He has to make sure certain rituals are performed in order to satisfy that obsession. It’s called “Compliant” because that’s the shorthand for “OCD compliant.”

“You Came In Me”
One word: “intercourse”

It’s a fairly straightforward song about sexual intercourse.

“Riding Bikes”
One word: “vandalism”

“Riding Bikes” is in the context of children or adolescents riding bikes, where it’s a mindset and an activity put together. Like, you and your friends go riding bikes and that implies a certain degree of intimacy or closeness with your friends. You’re not just riding bikes, you’re having adventures, you’re breaking things, you’re stealing things, you’re causing minor vandalism — all that sort of stuff.

“All the Surveyors”
One word: “survey”

We first got into a surveyor kick when, I can’t remember if it was Bob or me, we noticed that quite a few of the founding fathers of our country, the United States of America — your neighbour to the South — were in fact, surveyors. Meaning that they took a chain and a pole and paced off the physical dimensions of our new country. They physically measured the place they were living in and that was part of their definition of where they were living. How much more could the borders of that place mean to you and its identity as a nation than that you had physically measured it?

A lot of the founding fathers were surveyors, including George Washington. But if you think of the word “survey,” that means that you’re assessing something from a distance and measuring it. There are a lot of circumstances where there’s an external observer surveying what’s going on. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be a person these days. It could be a satellite or a drone or a surveillance camera.

“The People’s Microphone”
One word: “altogether”

That’s an instrumental song. The subject matter of the song doesn’t really exist, because it’s a musical motif only. But it was named after the practice that was revived during the Occupy Wall Street and Occupy other places movement. When someone wanted to address the whole of the occupation, obviously you couldn’t be heard over a large distance, so the whole assembly made a social contract that, whatever this person said from the podium, they would all repeat it in sync in a loud voice so that people behind them could hear it. That construction was called “the people’s microphone.” I think that was an ingenious invention.

I started to think also about its use as a consensus-building tool, If you hear yourself in your own voice, it forces you to consider the veracity of the thing that you’re saying because you don’t want to be repeating a lie in a loud voice. So everyone who has convinced themselves to be a conduit in that situation is, by the process of repeating the thing that they are amplifying, a kind of a filter for its veracity. And then it forces them to internalize that thought because they have to evaluate it and it could be conceived of as a rote thing but, because of the way we all behave with respect to speech and language, it isn’t. So, I was fascinated by that and I admire it as a technique to solve the problem of being heard in a crowd. And I’ll be honest, I felt like I missed something by not participating in any of these people’s microphone exchanges during the Occupy movement.

“Gary”
One word: “Indiana.”

It’s about the steel magnate for whom the town of Gary, IN, is named. Most of the lyrics for that song are taken from a book of labour and communist folk songs. It’s called The Big Red Songbook. There’s a song, the lyrics to which were written by T-Bone Slim, and they were in that book and the song is called ‘Gary’ and it’s about Gary, IN, and its namesake.

“Mayor/Surveyor”
One word: “pun.”

That’s another instrumental, based on a little guitar motif. Going back to the founding fathers and surveyor business, to qualify as a politician or statesman at the beginning of this country’s existence, you had to have a very tangible relationship with the country. And now, basically any asshole who wants to can be a politician. We thought it would be nice to revive the idea that in order to be a public servant, you would’ve had to have had some intimate relationship with the place you were trying to govern.

“Surveyor”
One word: “snappy.”

It’s a very snappy song. Quick tempo. And it has a literal relationship with the founding fathers and their work as surveyors in that the tools of the trade are mentioned by name and there’s a quotation by George Washington at the end that Bob recites where Washington describes how the lack of maps is impeding progress.

take that, bono and the edge

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

I just received an email from Touch & Go stating that my copy is now in the mail. STOKED.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

Didn't pre-order, but kind of wish I did cuz it sounds like folks in some Midwest spots have already received it.

Odd to think that after waiting 7 yrs I can't wait a few more days!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

Really do not have high hopes

they have become patchier with every album imo....which is a shame, the basic sound of the band is so good

Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

You're probably right. I just keep hoping...

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Excellent Italian Greyhound is only a slight dip, the previous three are all equally excellent. And when I saw them a few months ago they were the best they'd ever been.

nate woolls, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

'94 Crow an absolute monster

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

oh I bet, that's my other favorite Shellac track

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

btw are these on Bandcamp or???

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

s*****y for me, sorry

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

nah that's cool just wondering how to listen

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

Is this the one "John Peel was a hellava guy..."

kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

yes

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

Awesome. It's the best version. I'm buying that.

kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

If buy the lp vers (which is a thing of beauty) in classic Shellac fashion no dl code but you do get an unmarked cd vers stuck in there

The vers of "Billiard Player Song" on their is all time as well

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

Oof £30. But yeah, done.

kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

'94 Crow an absolute monster


For real, RIP Brandon Lee

Looking forward to playing this really fuckin loud on the drive home today

circa1916, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

I have a totally horseshit sounding 45 I think? of the 94 session

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

I forgot (or more likely didn't know) that the '94 Peel Session predates the release of "At Action Park" by a few months, if Wikipedia is right which has it coming out in Oct of that yr which seems like it could be right

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

they sure kept Spoke in the barrel a while

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Esp cuz they played on the reg until about '98 or so, I sort of assumed they had forgotten abt it until EIG

On the 2004 set "Billiard Player Song">"Dog & Pony Show">"Il Porno Star" is absolute peak Shellac

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

I'd rank them At Action Park > the singles > Terraform > 1000 Hurts > Dude Incredible > Excellent Italian Greyhound, but I'd put Two Nuns & a Pack Mule above all of them

nate woolls, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

Terraform >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Action Park > 1000 Hurts > Dude Incredible > Greyhound.

I'm aware I'm probably alone in this assessment.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

oh fuck it someone start a poll already

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

I'm aware I'm probably alone in this assessment.

Nah that is the correct order

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Oh and I saw someone point out this new set is Shellac #16 but Dude Incredible is Shellac #14...so whatever #15 is maybe that is coming "soon"? I realize in Shellac terms "soon" is 1-5 years.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

Yeah, Terraform is my favourite too. I also really like Greyhound, somewhat controversially, but Terraform stands slightly above the rest

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

FOR DECADES

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

BUILD A MONUMENT TO HIMSELF

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

Terraform>At Action Park>90s singles>1000 Hurts>Dude Incredible>Excellent Italian Greyhound

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

^^ I'd swap the singles and Action Park but yeah pretty much

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link

It's never quite gotten better than At Action Park but I'm always willing to hang in there to see what happens.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

Oh and I saw someone point out this new set is Shellac #16 but Dude Incredible is Shellac #14...so whatever #15 is maybe that is coming "soon"?

I heard an interview with Steve recently where he said they're planning on releasing a comp of all the non-album material so I'm guessing it's that.

woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

nice! I had a shitty CDR, now long gone, with a bunch of odds and ends which included a cover of AC/DC's Jailbreak, I'd like to hear that again

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link

it's on Youtube of course, wish fulfilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImNv9IgJdb4

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:31 (four years ago) link

jailbreak was on a skin graft 45

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

I forgot how much I like Dude Incredible

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

After the first two singles and Action Park, Terraform was a big WTF for me.
I just kept waiting for something to happen on "Didn't We Deserve..." but it never did. I get a bit more what they were going for now after you hear where they went, but that tune was kinda out of nowhere first time I heard the LP.

That said, the 'package' with the vintage paintings and the lush earth picutre on the interior and the record sleeves is really beautifully done.

The two singles had me hooked for a long time, they are some 7"s that I listened to a bunch. I also got the Drag City one and that Skin Graft double 7".

earlnash, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

Earlnash - felt exact same about Terraform - but the Chesley Bonestell art was dope. They never topped At Action Park or the singles in my opinion, but certainly have never put out any kind of clunker.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I got to say that Dave Foley doomsday bunker rock-DJ sketch from the new Kids series has got some serious "The End of Radio" vibe.

I have to wonder if him or the writer knows the tune.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csb9LEspJH4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

🫡🫡🫡

25 years of Terraform, unfairly maligned not so long ago in this very thread!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

Damn, already?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:13 (eleven months ago) link

dogg, I know.... feels strange

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:28 (eleven months ago) link

their greatest

imago, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:38 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

New album, To All Trains, out May 17.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:30 (one month ago) link

"How I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)" is a song title so good I am pissed I didn't think of it myself

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

pre-covers?

massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link

SHELLAC – TO ALL TRAINS TRACKLIST:
SIDE A
WSOD
Girl From Outside
Chick New Wave
Tattoos
Wednesday

SIDE B
Scrappers
Days Are Dogs
How I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)
Scabby the Rat
I Don’t Fear Hell

paisley got boring (Eazy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link


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