― earlnash, Thursday, 19 June 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 19 June 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 June 2003 05:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
"Membership:Steven Frank Albini - electric guitarTodd Stanford Trainer - drum setRobert Spurr Weston IV - electric bass guitar
Band information:While there is no specific coordination between Shellac's record releases and touring schedules, you can expect the band to tour at its usual sporadic and relaxed pace.
Current:Shellac will have a new LP anytime between now and 2007."
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― the cheshire fucking cat (chëshy f cat), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
The new record will be an edition of one, packaged inside a car a la Merzbow. The delay comes from designing a system of gyros so the vinyl won't skip while the car is in motion, because it'll be vinyl-only, of course.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― chëshy (chëshy f cat), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm sure the new record will be worth the wait when it is finally released
― chris besinger (chris besinger), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Damn. I was hit hard when i heard the news of Loder, and now I'm still getting hit. :(
― donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
2009 tour dates
05/13/09 - Vera, Groningen, Netherlands 05/14/09 - Paradiso, Amsterdam, Netherlands 05/16/09 - Butlins Holiday Center, Minehead, United Kingdom - with ATP Festival 05/17/09 - Butlins Holiday Center, Minehead, United Kingdom - with ATP Festival 05/29/09 - Primavera Sound Festival, Barcelona, Spain 06/11/09 - Vera Project, Seattle, WA 06/13/09 - Berbati's Pan, Portland, OR 06/14/09 - Berbati's Pan, Portland, OR 06/15/09 - W.O.W Hall, Eugene, OR 06/17/09 - Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA 06/18/09 - Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA 06/20/09 - Echoplex, Los Angeles, CA 06/21/09 - Echoplex, Los Angeles, CA 06/25/09 - Varsity Theater, Minneapolis, MN
(note: shellac are playing Vera on the 6/12 as well. Arcwelder is opening. I am really really excited.)
― bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Go forth and rock.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
why on earth do they wanna play the W.O.W. hall, good Lord
― Cindy Sherman I'm Your #1 Fan (J0hn D.), Saturday, 7 March 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
once again (as i believe you posted on their previous stop in seattle) ,thanks for the advance notice. making plans to catch the vera show again.
― drone/a/sore, Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Yay, W1ll! I know a lot of folks from Vancouver are already planning this out. (I think most of the audience at the last stop were from BC. When Bob asked for bills, I forget the joke that prompted that, most everyone held up $CDNs)
BTW, The Vera has moved since 2005. It's actually in the Seattle Center now, just blocks away from Easy Street Records in Lower QA, right next to where the QFC used to be. 1st Ave N and Republican St. are the nearest cross streets. It's also a much bigger and kinda weirder space.
― bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link
"why on earth do they wanna play the W.O.W. hall, good Lord"
Some of the most classic concerts of my life, I saw at WOW Hall.
Fugazi on the Repeater tour with Beat Happening and Calamity Jane.Melvins on Eggnog tour (Joe Preston on bass). Also again for Lysol (Lorax on bass).Jesus Lizard on the Liar tour with Jon Spencer opening.Alice Donut on Untidy Suicides tour.Thinkin Fellers with Mudwimmin.Nomeansno on the Wrong tour with Victim's Family.
And more recently, Isis with Mogwai.
I kick myself now for not going to Sleep on Holy Mountain tour supporting Hawkwind.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 9 March 2009 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link
got my ticket for the june 11 show,,,,trying to wangle a way to see bat for lashes the night before at the crocodile.
― drone/a/sore, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link
btw,shellac has added a june 12 vera show.
― drone/a/sore, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I got a ticket for both. ^_^
― bacon = bad for the face + magic for the moobs (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link
todd trainer on animal planet o_O and awesome
:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZWrVQTlonc
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Amazing!
― Wax Cat, Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG that was awesome. though todd trainer seems like a truly weird dude.
― the architecture of horniness (askance johnson), Sunday, 17 January 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
That's amazing. It's good to see that Albini can drop the cynicism, misanthropy and sarcasm when it counts. On a dog owner's program.
― Doran, Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah in the spring and summer sometimes i would look out my office window and see todd, all vampirish in black, walking his lil' doggie around, so cute.
i don't know him but i've found that everyone i know who has actually dealt with or knows albini IRL says he is super nice and awesome...people that say "oh he's such a dick" tend to not know him irl.
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I was joking. I've heard that Albini is actually a pretty nice guy if you meet him. It was more how he usually comes across in interviews that I was talking about.
― Doran, Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome video!! wonder if uffizi tours with 'em.
― Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Sunday, 17 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
This will be messy:http://www.atpfestival.com/events/shellacny.php
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Noon! I can see lots of people buying tickets for that and not making it.
― kraudive, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Coming to my hood. Still worth seeing live?
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
yes! (if you like shellac)
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
Saw the 20th anniversary show in Minneapolis over the weekend. It was great.
― your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
line-up for their ATP this December currently looking great:
Shellac Of North America Neurosis Wire Mission of Burma Oxbow Nina Nastasia Melt Banana The Ex + Brass Unbound Mono Shannon Wright Zeni Geva Arcwelder Scrawl Uzeda Bottomless Pit Prinzhorn Dance School Three Second Kiss Pinebender Red Fang The Membranes Buke and Gase Dead Rider Helen Money Bear Claw ALiX STNNNG + more TBC
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
so did i mh! had a blast....
btw STNNNG marks the first time a participant in ILX Pre-Covers LULU makes an appearance at ATP
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
"Little Dog" is coming to the UK!
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't quite in the right headspace for STNNNG when they were on, but I think that's more due to me than anything about the band! I was kind of thrown off by a lot of things, having just been in a car and then getting dinner having a lot to do with it.
― your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
I need to give their post-At Action Park catalogue another chance
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
what they need to do is release some sort of definitive amazing live album.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
“Dude Incredible”One word: “monkeys”
It’s about the group dynamics of trying to get something done with a group of people. Somebody ends up having to behave like a ringleader and then there’s debate and all of the counties have to be heard from and then, eventually, there’s a move where everybody’s suitably motivated and you go off and do something. But along the way there are circumstances and ultimately you get to a resolution where you complete your enterprise or whatever.
“Compliant”One word: “compulsive”
The text of the song is an abstraction that Bob came up with of the things that someone who is suffering obsessive compulsive disorder has to do just to get through his day. He has to make sure certain rituals are performed in order to satisfy that obsession. It’s called “Compliant” because that’s the shorthand for “OCD compliant.”
“You Came In Me”One word: “intercourse”
It’s a fairly straightforward song about sexual intercourse.
“Riding Bikes”One word: “vandalism”
“Riding Bikes” is in the context of children or adolescents riding bikes, where it’s a mindset and an activity put together. Like, you and your friends go riding bikes and that implies a certain degree of intimacy or closeness with your friends. You’re not just riding bikes, you’re having adventures, you’re breaking things, you’re stealing things, you’re causing minor vandalism — all that sort of stuff.
“All the Surveyors”One word: “survey”
We first got into a surveyor kick when, I can’t remember if it was Bob or me, we noticed that quite a few of the founding fathers of our country, the United States of America — your neighbour to the South — were in fact, surveyors. Meaning that they took a chain and a pole and paced off the physical dimensions of our new country. They physically measured the place they were living in and that was part of their definition of where they were living. How much more could the borders of that place mean to you and its identity as a nation than that you had physically measured it?
A lot of the founding fathers were surveyors, including George Washington. But if you think of the word “survey,” that means that you’re assessing something from a distance and measuring it. There are a lot of circumstances where there’s an external observer surveying what’s going on. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be a person these days. It could be a satellite or a drone or a surveillance camera.
“The People’s Microphone”One word: “altogether”
That’s an instrumental song. The subject matter of the song doesn’t really exist, because it’s a musical motif only. But it was named after the practice that was revived during the Occupy Wall Street and Occupy other places movement. When someone wanted to address the whole of the occupation, obviously you couldn’t be heard over a large distance, so the whole assembly made a social contract that, whatever this person said from the podium, they would all repeat it in sync in a loud voice so that people behind them could hear it. That construction was called “the people’s microphone.” I think that was an ingenious invention.
I started to think also about its use as a consensus-building tool, If you hear yourself in your own voice, it forces you to consider the veracity of the thing that you’re saying because you don’t want to be repeating a lie in a loud voice. So everyone who has convinced themselves to be a conduit in that situation is, by the process of repeating the thing that they are amplifying, a kind of a filter for its veracity. And then it forces them to internalize that thought because they have to evaluate it and it could be conceived of as a rote thing but, because of the way we all behave with respect to speech and language, it isn’t. So, I was fascinated by that and I admire it as a technique to solve the problem of being heard in a crowd. And I’ll be honest, I felt like I missed something by not participating in any of these people’s microphone exchanges during the Occupy movement.
“Gary”One word: “Indiana.”
It’s about the steel magnate for whom the town of Gary, IN, is named. Most of the lyrics for that song are taken from a book of labour and communist folk songs. It’s called The Big Red Songbook. There’s a song, the lyrics to which were written by T-Bone Slim, and they were in that book and the song is called ‘Gary’ and it’s about Gary, IN, and its namesake.
“Mayor/Surveyor”One word: “pun.”
That’s another instrumental, based on a little guitar motif. Going back to the founding fathers and surveyor business, to qualify as a politician or statesman at the beginning of this country’s existence, you had to have a very tangible relationship with the country. And now, basically any asshole who wants to can be a politician. We thought it would be nice to revive the idea that in order to be a public servant, you would’ve had to have had some intimate relationship with the place you were trying to govern.
“Surveyor”One word: “snappy.”
It’s a very snappy song. Quick tempo. And it has a literal relationship with the founding fathers and their work as surveyors in that the tools of the trade are mentioned by name and there’s a quotation by George Washington at the end that Bob recites where Washington describes how the lack of maps is impeding progress.
take that, bono and the edge
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
I just received an email from Touch & Go stating that my copy is now in the mail. STOKED.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Didn't pre-order, but kind of wish I did cuz it sounds like folks in some Midwest spots have already received it.
Odd to think that after waiting 7 yrs I can't wait a few more days!
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
Really do not have high hopes
they have become patchier with every album imo....which is a shame, the basic sound of the band is so good
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
You're probably right. I just keep hoping...
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
Excellent Italian Greyhound is only a slight dip, the previous three are all equally excellent. And when I saw them a few months ago they were the best they'd ever been.
― nate woolls, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
'94 Crow an absolute monster
― imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
oh I bet, that's my other favorite Shellac track
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
btw are these on Bandcamp or???
s*****y for me, sorry
― imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
nah that's cool just wondering how to listen
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Is this the one "John Peel was a hellava guy..."
― kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
yes
― imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
Awesome. It's the best version. I'm buying that.
― kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
If buy the lp vers (which is a thing of beauty) in classic Shellac fashion no dl code but you do get an unmarked cd vers stuck in there
The vers of "Billiard Player Song" on their is all time as well
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
Oof £30. But yeah, done.
― kraudive, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
― circa1916, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
I have a totally horseshit sounding 45 I think? of the 94 session
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
I forgot (or more likely didn't know) that the '94 Peel Session predates the release of "At Action Park" by a few months, if Wikipedia is right which has it coming out in Oct of that yr which seems like it could be right
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
they sure kept Spoke in the barrel a while
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
Esp cuz they played on the reg until about '98 or so, I sort of assumed they had forgotten abt it until EIG
On the 2004 set "Billiard Player Song">"Dog & Pony Show">"Il Porno Star" is absolute peak Shellac
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
I'd rank them At Action Park > the singles > Terraform > 1000 Hurts > Dude Incredible > Excellent Italian Greyhound, but I'd put Two Nuns & a Pack Mule above all of them
― nate woolls, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
Terraform >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Action Park > 1000 Hurts > Dude Incredible > Greyhound.
I'm aware I'm probably alone in this assessment.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
oh fuck it someone start a poll already
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Nah that is the correct order
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
Oh and I saw someone point out this new set is Shellac #16 but Dude Incredible is Shellac #14...so whatever #15 is maybe that is coming "soon"? I realize in Shellac terms "soon" is 1-5 years.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
http://thatrecordgotmehigh.com/2019/06/13/s2e64-shellac-at-action-park-with-jay-reeve/#comment-20
― Stevolende, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
Yeah, Terraform is my favourite too. I also really like Greyhound, somewhat controversially, but Terraform stands slightly above the rest
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
FOR DECADES
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
BUILD A MONUMENT TO HIMSELF
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
Terraform>At Action Park>90s singles>1000 Hurts>Dude Incredible>Excellent Italian Greyhound
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
^^ I'd swap the singles and Action Park but yeah pretty much
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
It's never quite gotten better than At Action Park but I'm always willing to hang in there to see what happens.
― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
Oh and I saw someone point out this new set is Shellac #16 but Dude Incredible is Shellac #14...so whatever #15 is maybe that is coming "soon"?
I heard an interview with Steve recently where he said they're planning on releasing a comp of all the non-album material so I'm guessing it's that.
― woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
nice! I had a shitty CDR, now long gone, with a bunch of odds and ends which included a cover of AC/DC's Jailbreak, I'd like to hear that again
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link
it's on Youtube of course, wish fulfilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImNv9IgJdb4
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:31 (four years ago) link
jailbreak was on a skin graft 45
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link
I forgot how much I like Dude Incredible
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
After the first two singles and Action Park, Terraform was a big WTF for me. I just kept waiting for something to happen on "Didn't We Deserve..." but it never did. I get a bit more what they were going for now after you hear where they went, but that tune was kinda out of nowhere first time I heard the LP.
That said, the 'package' with the vintage paintings and the lush earth picutre on the interior and the record sleeves is really beautifully done.
The two singles had me hooked for a long time, they are some 7"s that I listened to a bunch. I also got the Drag City one and that Skin Graft double 7".
― earlnash, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
Earlnash - felt exact same about Terraform - but the Chesley Bonestell art was dope. They never topped At Action Park or the singles in my opinion, but certainly have never put out any kind of clunker.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
I got to say that Dave Foley doomsday bunker rock-DJ sketch from the new Kids series has got some serious "The End of Radio" vibe.
I have to wonder if him or the writer knows the tune.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/Csb9LEspJH4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==🫡🫡🫡25 years of Terraform, unfairly maligned not so long ago in this very thread!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 21:20 (eleven months ago) link
Damn, already?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:13 (eleven months ago) link
dogg, I know.... feels strange
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:28 (eleven months ago) link
their greatest
― imago, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:38 (eleven months ago) link
New album, To All Trains, out May 17.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:30 (one month ago) link
"How I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)" is a song title so good I am pissed I didn't think of it myself
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link
pre-covers?
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link
SHELLAC – TO ALL TRAINS TRACKLIST:SIDE AWSODGirl From OutsideChick New WaveTattoosWednesday
SIDE BScrappersDays Are DogsHow I Wrote How I Wrote Elastic Man (cock & bull)Scabby the RatI Don’t Fear Hell
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link