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1st titles of 2008, for reference:

WTA Gold Coast: LI Na d. Victoria AZARENKA 4-6 6-3 6-4
WTA Auckland: Lindsay DAVENPORT d. Aravane REZAÏ 6-2 6-2

ATP Doha: Andy MURRAY d. Stanislas Wawrinka 6-4 4-6 6-2
ATP Adelaide: Michaël LLODRA d. Jarkko NIEMINEN 6-3 6-4
ATP Chennai: Mikhail YOUZHNY d. Rafael NADAL 6-0 6-1

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

go davenport!!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

Week 2/2008, with all eyes on the AO anyway:

WTA Sydney: Justine HENIN d. Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 4-6 6-2 6-4
WTA Hobart: Eleni DANIILIDOU walk-over vs Vera ZVONAREVA

ATP Sydney: Dmitry TURSUNOV d. Chris GUCCIONE 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
ATP Auckland: Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER d. Juan Carlos FERRERO 7-6(4) 7-5

anatol_merklich, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Watching Sharapova vs Obziler in the Israel-Russia Fed Cup tie now, and wow is the crowd noisy! Rapturous cheering on every serve fault by Maria, tauntingly SCREAMING along with her on every shot etc. Umpire totally unable to silence them haha!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2008 12:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

fuck what channel? we need to sign up for the tennis channle, i can't be missing stuff like this

Surmounter, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

I just go to and check whether anything is available ("Live Sports" tab -> "Tennis" button). Note: playing stuff may in general entail installing various Chinese tv apps (sopcast, tvants, uusee...). That particular tie, however, is on some Israeli sports station showing through Windows Media Player or I guess any other .wmv-showing app.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

How useful it is if you're not using Windows I've no idea. Also, quality unsurprisingly varies wildly; this Israeli broadcast is pretty decent.

Pe'er was double-breadsticked by the Shazbot right now, making it 2-1 to Russia. Elsewhere, France vs China will be decided by the doubles.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Murray knocks out Federer in the first round of the Dubai tournament.

nice one you unpatriotic little shit.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

he was wearing a saltire cap when he was playing, which doesn't seem desperately unpatriotic to me.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Federer was too busy not thinking about yesterday

Matt, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was only referring to his disinclination to play davis cup.
and i was kidding about that anyway - i care no more about it than he does.

still, 'unpatriotic' was probably a poor choice of word. well done young man!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

It was more the "little shit" that you coupled it with, to be fair.

Anyway, yes, two out of three won against Federer now.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

God knows why he'd want to play the Davis Cup. Who else is going to be on the team? I wouldn't want to be winning matches and carrying a team full of useless people in a tournament that has long since lost its cachet and relevance except in the eyes of really, really old tennis commentators.

edwardo, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

x-post take umbrage wherever you like it was all meant in jest, apart from the congratulatory bit. internet does not do deadpan.

But I genuinely like Murray. I also agree with the above post. I can't be arsed to even watch Davis Cup so I can't blame him if he's rather not play in it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Andy Murray wins something

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

He has won about 4-5 career titles before...but yes, its his biggest win

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

this is his third title of 2008 alone. by far the biggest though! wish i could've seen it, sounds like a fantastic match, and it's good to see him encroaching on THE TRIVALRY even if i do like nole more (lol the way fed's playing, nadal/djokovic/murray is the real trivalry).

on the WTA, dinara safina has won two big titles in a row! she is the only woman out there who is stepping up to fill the void at the top. jankovic is going to be world no 1 next week, that is embarrassing. the WTA is probably in the worst shape i've ever witnessed.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

also i didn't know this thread existed!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh I know he's won stuff before but not a big tourney. It was a good match. He looks so much fitter and stronger than he was a year or 2 ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 23:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

5-1 up in the third! :o

at the same time I was watching Flavia Pennetta try to choke away her match - she beat Venus in the last round, and winning this would mean a top 10 debut. 6 match points came and went, double faults on at least two of them, but her opponent was Hantuchova so it was OK in the end.

btw, Serena's post-Wimbledon record = QF loss in Stanford to Stosur and 3R loss in Cincinnati to Bammer, who now owns a 2-0 record over her. The Real Number 1!

am endeavouring to pretend the horrific Clijsters comeback isn't happening. never liked her.

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

obv didn't see the Fed match but am guessing that J-W just started going even more for broke than usual when down 1-5, and everything began going in.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

yep and suddenly firing aces as well when he hadn't been able to get a good first serve in since like the end of the first set. meanwhile fed's serve just went to pieces after that.

also yay dinara fighting back a break in both sets to beat kimmy. would've hated it if she lost this one.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

this whole presser was fucking classic.

Q. Now that you stopped, what about coaching her?

MARAT SAFIN: Oh, you want me to hang myself? (laughter.)

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wow, Pennetta will be Italy's FIRST EVER top 10 woman! Both Schiavone and, before her, Farina Elia peaked at 11.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Andy Murray becomes the first man not named Roger or Rafa to hold a spot in the top two since forever. More importantly, Del Potro beat Roddick.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

she's a great ball-striker isn't she? definitely a Baby Kanepi type. never dreamed she'd have the patience to hit through Cornet but she's done a good job of it today. movement isn't the best though. she doesn't get much hype but she's one of the best of her age group - obviously hasn't broken through to the top 100 like Keys, Bencic and Vekic have but she's right around Siniakova, Townsend etc

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 15:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

not the best closer, as you might have ascertained from that point

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 15:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

Great way to serve it out though!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 15:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

Thiem in the top 50 :)

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

wow 17 year old Alexander Zverev wins a 500 match after winning a challenger last week.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

I saw a bit of that. Love his FH, it's a really versatile weapon. Haase was absolutely dreadful though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 07:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

OUCH @ that scoreline vs Wozniacki for Bencic. Woz's style is always going to kill young players but no positives about a double bagel...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 07:31 (1 week ago) Permalink

thx for the info on kontaveit lex!

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 10:18 (1 week ago) Permalink

lmao @ Fognini, peak Tanknini right now (as defending champion, to an opponent who's called the trainer for illness twice). 14 points in a row for Krajinovic

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 11:18 (1 week ago) Permalink

18 of the last 19 points, lollllll

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 11:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

LMAO, in the WTA Bastad tournament ONE seed, Annika Beck, made it out of R1

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 11:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

Zverev a set and a break up on Youzhny (and he should've broken at least twice already in this set). I like his game a lot!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

saw a little bit of the replay of Zverev beating Haase last night, dude is fun to watch (and it's startling watching someone that young just taking it to opponents after this recent "mature" tennis player renaissance)

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:28 (1 week ago) Permalink

I post, they choke. Every time

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

I always felt the "tennis players are getting older" narrative was overblown b/c one of the factors - that there were no top-quality juniors coming through - was always left unsaid. (Also, there are pretty individual reasons for players like Serena and Li still going in their 30s - cf Agassi.) So I'm not surprised that if there are 16/17yos with the quality of this Zverev or Ana Konjuh, they won't look out of place against regular Tour players

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

Youzhny pretty much breaks himself to love at 5-5, Zverev will serve for it...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

And he does it. Exciting talent!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 13:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

youngest player to beat a top 20 player since Gasquet in 2007

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 July 2014 00:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

I guess it's the most promising start for a young guy since Tomic? Unlikely that he'll throw it away like Bernie has.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 July 2014 00:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

21 minutes ago
Out and about in Istanbul. It's been 3 years since I have worn heels on a normal day out. #feelsgood #looksgood #shopping #highheels #sunFollow


lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:17 (1 week ago) Permalink

also, that McIlroy shade makes me think of the Taylor Swift lyric: "he didn't like it when I wore high heels, but I do..."

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

anyway, it's pretty neat right now flicking between streams of up-and-comers - Konjuh made a bit of a meal of the second set vs Doi but I still think she'll come through; Siniakova is seriously grumpy, at least 10 racquet-chucks in half a set vs Nara, and her game isn't overwhelming; Zverev still playing impressively vs Giraldo...

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 13:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

Konjuh and Zverev both serve for a place in their first QF; both simultaneously miss a MP and get broken.

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 14:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

Both win anyway, Konjuh by breaking in the next game and Zverev in the TB.

Most impressive win for Zverev this week, Youzhny may be ranked higher but Giraldo's in better form. Dolgopolov somehow lost to Kamke so that's opened his path to the SF tantalisingly...

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 14:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

Konjuh is now 27-9 in three-set matches in her senior career. That's astonishingly good for someone so young.

And against her toughest competition in WTA events (MD and qualies) and Fed Cup, she's 10-1.

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 15:17 (1 week ago) Permalink

Jeff Sackmann ‏@tennisabstract 1h

Wins versus top 100, before 18th birthday (active players):
Nadal: 24
Hewitt: 9
Federer: 7
Zverev: 6
Gasquet: 5
Delpo: 4

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 July 2014 16:29 (1 week ago) Permalink

and he's the youngest to make an ATP QF since Nadal

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

at a 500 no less

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

Jeff Sackmann ‏@tennisabstract 1h

Wins versus top 100, before 18th birthday (active players):
Nadal: 24
Hewitt: 9
Federer: 7
Zverev: 6
Gasquet: 5
Delpo: 4

― lex pretend, Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't fully process this because I didn't realize he doesn't turn 18 until April 2015!

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 July 2014 23:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

Into the top 200, into Slam qualy territory

will be interesting to see how he fares as the favourite against Kamke, someone he's beaten recently and the first opponent here that people "expect" him to beat, regardless of ranking

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 07:36 (6 days ago) Permalink

I didn't see it, but 0-6 7-5 6-3 is a score that says a lot about Zverev's mental resilience.

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 13:00 (6 days ago) Permalink

Jaw just dropped at that winner from Konjuh. Raced across the court to nail a BH pass off a Svitolina smash. Played a loose second set but has been peaking in the third set...

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 13:40 (6 days ago) Permalink

Konjuh wins 6-4 1-6 6-1 with a clean dropshot winner on MP. So impressive. 28-9 in three-setters now. It feels very appropriate that these two 1997 kids are having their breakthrough weeks at the same time...

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 13:45 (6 days ago) Permalink

I suddenly had that horrible feeling that I'd seen Zverev's DAD play but no... it's Alexander VOLKOV that I saw play McEnroe in the Wirral International in '88. Doesn't make me any younger, mind.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 July 2014 14:17 (6 days ago) Permalink

We've seen Zverev's big bro play - 26yo Mischa, former world #45 and 2010 Metz finalist and uhhhh nothing else of note

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 14:30 (6 days ago) Permalink

Though if you remember Rossana Neffa De Los Rios or Patricia Hy-Boulais, you may not be comforted to know that both their daughters have competed in ITF pro events this year

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 14:31 (6 days ago) Permalink

I do recall those names. But if we're talking about pro offspring, on the same day and on the same court I saw Volkov-McEnroe in West Kirby in '88, I saw Miloslav Mecir lose to Jim Pugh.

Michael Jones, Friday, 18 July 2014 14:39 (6 days ago) Permalink

Oh yeah I saw his son in Wim qualies. But I was too young to see his dad so it doesn't count for me! ^_^

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2014 14:54 (6 days ago) Permalink

ferrer steamrolled zverev, too bad but impressive of him to get there

johnny crunch, Saturday, 19 July 2014 19:15 (5 days ago) Permalink

been away all week seems like I missed some good tennis. had a tennis dream last night though fwiw. can't remember which player was in it or if I'd even recognise them irl

cerealbar, Saturday, 19 July 2014 23:39 (5 days ago) Permalink

of course Tomic wins a title the week after IMG drops him

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 20 July 2014 22:44 (4 days ago) Permalink

people always say the interzome between Wimbledon and the US hard court swing is dead air but the kids just keep coming this year. 17-yr-old Borna Coric beats 7th seed Edouard Roger-Vasselin in Umag. Really impressed with his power, anticipation, mental strength - he won so many games from 0-15 or 0-30 down.

lex pretend, Monday, 21 July 2014 17:18 (3 days ago) Permalink

lmao, Young and Harrison won five games (and were fed two bagels) between them in their R1 Atlanta matches vs Sela and Smyczek.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:08 (2 days ago) Permalink

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