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1st titles of 2008, for reference:

WTA Gold Coast: LI Na d. Victoria AZARENKA 4-6 6-3 6-4
WTA Auckland: Lindsay DAVENPORT d. Aravane REZAÏ 6-2 6-2

ATP Doha: Andy MURRAY d. Stanislas Wawrinka 6-4 4-6 6-2
ATP Adelaide: Michaël LLODRA d. Jarkko NIEMINEN 6-3 6-4
ATP Chennai: Mikhail YOUZHNY d. Rafael NADAL 6-0 6-1

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

go davenport!!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Week 2/2008, with all eyes on the AO anyway:

WTA Sydney: Justine HENIN d. Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 4-6 6-2 6-4
WTA Hobart: Eleni DANIILIDOU walk-over vs Vera ZVONAREVA

ATP Sydney: Dmitry TURSUNOV d. Chris GUCCIONE 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
ATP Auckland: Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER d. Juan Carlos FERRERO 7-6(4) 7-5

anatol_merklich, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Watching Sharapova vs Obziler in the Israel-Russia Fed Cup tie now, and wow is the crowd noisy! Rapturous cheering on every serve fault by Maria, tauntingly SCREAMING along with her on every shot etc. Umpire totally unable to silence them haha!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2008 12:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

fuck what channel? we need to sign up for the tennis channle, i can't be missing stuff like this

Surmounter, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

I just go to and check whether anything is available ("Live Sports" tab -> "Tennis" button). Note: playing stuff may in general entail installing various Chinese tv apps (sopcast, tvants, uusee...). That particular tie, however, is on some Israeli sports station showing through Windows Media Player or I guess any other .wmv-showing app.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

How useful it is if you're not using Windows I've no idea. Also, quality unsurprisingly varies wildly; this Israeli broadcast is pretty decent.

Pe'er was double-breadsticked by the Shazbot right now, making it 2-1 to Russia. Elsewhere, France vs China will be decided by the doubles.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Murray knocks out Federer in the first round of the Dubai tournament.

nice one you unpatriotic little shit.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 17:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

he was wearing a saltire cap when he was playing, which doesn't seem desperately unpatriotic to me.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Federer was too busy not thinking about yesterday

Matt, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

i was only referring to his disinclination to play davis cup.
and i was kidding about that anyway - i care no more about it than he does.

still, 'unpatriotic' was probably a poor choice of word. well done young man!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

It was more the "little shit" that you coupled it with, to be fair.

Anyway, yes, two out of three won against Federer now.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

God knows why he'd want to play the Davis Cup. Who else is going to be on the team? I wouldn't want to be winning matches and carrying a team full of useless people in a tournament that has long since lost its cachet and relevance except in the eyes of really, really old tennis commentators.

edwardo, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

x-post take umbrage wherever you like it was all meant in jest, apart from the congratulatory bit. internet does not do deadpan.

But I genuinely like Murray. I also agree with the above post. I can't be arsed to even watch Davis Cup so I can't blame him if he's rather not play in it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Andy Murray wins something

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

He has won about 4-5 career titles before...but yes, its his biggest win

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

this is his third title of 2008 alone. by far the biggest though! wish i could've seen it, sounds like a fantastic match, and it's good to see him encroaching on THE TRIVALRY even if i do like nole more (lol the way fed's playing, nadal/djokovic/murray is the real trivalry).

on the WTA, dinara safina has won two big titles in a row! she is the only woman out there who is stepping up to fill the void at the top. jankovic is going to be world no 1 next week, that is embarrassing. the WTA is probably in the worst shape i've ever witnessed.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

also i didn't know this thread existed!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh I know he's won stuff before but not a big tourney. It was a good match. He looks so much fitter and stronger than he was a year or 2 ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 23:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

5-1 up in the third! :o

at the same time I was watching Flavia Pennetta try to choke away her match - she beat Venus in the last round, and winning this would mean a top 10 debut. 6 match points came and went, double faults on at least two of them, but her opponent was Hantuchova so it was OK in the end.

btw, Serena's post-Wimbledon record = QF loss in Stanford to Stosur and 3R loss in Cincinnati to Bammer, who now owns a 2-0 record over her. The Real Number 1!

am endeavouring to pretend the horrific Clijsters comeback isn't happening. never liked her.

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

obv didn't see the Fed match but am guessing that J-W just started going even more for broke than usual when down 1-5, and everything began going in.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

yep and suddenly firing aces as well when he hadn't been able to get a good first serve in since like the end of the first set. meanwhile fed's serve just went to pieces after that.

also yay dinara fighting back a break in both sets to beat kimmy. would've hated it if she lost this one.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

this whole presser was fucking classic.

Q. Now that you stopped, what about coaching her?

MARAT SAFIN: Oh, you want me to hang myself? (laughter.)

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wow, Pennetta will be Italy's FIRST EVER top 10 woman! Both Schiavone and, before her, Farina Elia peaked at 11.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Andy Murray becomes the first man not named Roger or Rafa to hold a spot in the top two since forever. More importantly, Del Potro beat Roddick.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, four of the last five. 3rd set t/b in 2011 (when Novak was spent, and subsequently lost to Ferrer and alternate Tipsarevic (who came within a point of making the semis)).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 19 November 2015 12:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

that Federer miss just now, oh my god

this looked like it was following the pattern of "fun first set, loser collapses in second" but Nishikori's won four games in a row from 1-4 down!

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

For someone who just got thumped in his 2nd RR match, Novak has about a 95% chance of qualifying

one of the oddities of RR is that in a group with two significantly better players, assuming form holds the match between those two big names is one of the least important in terms of who gets out of the group

ie for Nole vs Fed to matter for anything other than group standings, either Nishikori or Berdych have to throw a spanner in the works at some point

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

anyway this was the Federer miss, which gave Nishikori a BP, which he then took

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

Ridiculous single-handed bunt pass from Kei

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:56 (1 week ago) Permalink

Nishikori peaking from 1-4 down again, that stop volley!

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:15 (1 week ago) Permalink

damnit Kei just fell away in the final couple of points

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

Second point of the final game was a treat though - angles and spins galore.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:27 (1 week ago) Permalink

my goodness, Murray's defence

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

bad job by andy in that tiebreak, smart of stan to just back up & let andy fuxx up

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

what a bizarre collapse

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

this comparison strikes me as so obvious that surely it's been made before but Murray = ATP Jankovic in so many ways regarding needless and inexplicable psychodrama

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:28 (1 week ago) Permalink


lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

that's a great dog

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 20 November 2015 21:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

it is!

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

strange resolution there was hoping murray could get his shit together and get it to a 3rd

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

it looked like he was going to for a second. pretty strange match but happy for Murray that his unpleasant week in London has been put out of its misery at last

really hope Stan and Roger reprise last year's dramatics, that was the one match I missed (the only one that was worth watching obv)

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:12 (1 week ago) Permalink


lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:27 (1 week ago) Permalink

No bagel but that's more than enough to convince me that this will be over 6-3 6-2 so I can go to bed and get up early for Roger/Stan.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

Which I'm going to miss for the second year running -_-

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

lmao Novak toying with Rafa for fun in this game, these casual experiments in dropshot-lob combos and he wins both points anyway

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

H2H finally evened at 23-23!

Novak is 21-22 against Federer, got a chance to even that back this week.

And next year we take the lead in both H2Hs, hopefully :)

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:37 (1 week ago) Permalink

yea the drop shots were not good

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:57 (1 week ago) Permalink

rafas current game is 1 of the least likely to give novak trouble tbh, hes just not going to lose long rallies regularly

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:59 (1 week ago) Permalink

23-23 vs Rafa
22-22 vs Fed

Fed got Dubai, Cincy and the YEC round robin
Nole got Wimbledon, the US Open, the YEC final (and IW and Rome)

Kind of amazing that their rivalry in 2015 breaks down so simply. Even two days after getting dominated by Federer in RR, the bookies had Nole as the heavy favourite today. Mediocre match though, to conclude another generally mediocre YEC (the two Nishikori three-setters notwithstanding)

lex pretend, Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

Has to be said that Novak's 2015 is probably the best season of the last two decades. Two more years like that and he's the GOAT, not Federer. I mean, how many M1000s has he won? It's insane, nobody's ever dominated that tier while also racking up the slams at such a rate.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 23 November 2015 00:40 (6 days ago) Permalink

@jrcunniff: Djokovic completes best year of career, going 82-6.

Earns 16,585 ranking pts out of possible 18,790.

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:53 (6 days ago) Permalink

@jrcunniff: Since the 2014 U.S. Open, Djokovic has played 20 events, won 14 of them, and compiled record of 99-7 (5-4 vs Federer, 94-3 vs all others)

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:54 (6 days ago) Permalink

Federer 2006 was 82-5 (losing to Nadal four times and Murray once). Fed had three consecutive years at 92% W/L or better; Djokovic has just posted his second (after 2011), Nadal has had one (2013).

They're all around 82% career-wise. It's a toss-up at this point. You'd fancy a rejuvenated Nadal to win one more Roland Garros before he quits, and Novak to win anywhere from three to eight more Slams before he reaches Roger's age. Roger might have a Wimbledon left in him.

They're still not Guillermo Vilas ;) (145-14 in 1977; never mind the %-age, feel the quantity)

I think Fed played ok yesterday, I'm just not sure how you attack someone who is hitting every backhand to within 30cm of the baseline.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 November 2015 11:46 (6 days ago) Permalink

Djokovic's second 90%+ year, I mean.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 November 2015 11:47 (6 days ago) Permalink

it's still so incredibly weird to me that GBR are in the davis cup FINAL

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 12:55 (2 days ago) Permalink

I only have the dimmest memories of '78. Buster M beating Gottfried from mp down at a purpose-built venue in the middle of the CA desert? And 19yo McEnroe winning his two singles easily. But I don't think I've ever seen footage - it was only newspaper reports.

And Edmund is a decent high-end Challenger level clay-courter so could conceivably win his opening singles. It might be over by Saturday. To lose against Spain, Argentina, France, etc on this surface would be no disgrace. But Belgium would be a real downer.

Michael Jones, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:08 (2 days ago) Permalink

Edmund's got a lot of potential to be more than that in the future imo. Anyway, Goffin's looking incredibly tight, Edmund's completely relaxed and bullying him around the court. 5-0!

(Got to think Bemelmans is going up against Murray to save the energies of Darcis or Coppejans to take on Edmund on Sun if it comes down to that) (it should be Coppejans if they've got any sense, who's an erstwhile junior rival of Edmund and leads him 2-0 on clay, including once this year)

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:11 (2 days ago) Permalink

Edmund held an 12-min opening service game, sped out to 5-0 in the next 20 minutes, then it turned into a bit of a struggle but he got it done 6-3. Long way to go though and Goffin's got his teeth into it now.

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

tempted to watch the next rubber because if you squint Bemelmans looks like Justine Henin.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Friday, 27 November 2015 13:39 (2 days ago) Permalink

oof @ Goffin freezing up even more

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

hands over double break with terrible DF

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

hands over double break with terrible DF

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repeat down set point ://///

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 13:54 (2 days ago) Permalink

lmao @ the cut-away to Clijsters in the crowd looking absolutely disgusted

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 14:00 (2 days ago) Permalink

Goodness. I came back in here to retract my statement above because I thought Edmund was up against Bemelmans. Didn't think he would trouble Goffin.

Goffin now a break up in set three.

Michael Jones, Friday, 27 November 2015 14:14 (2 days ago) Permalink

I've only seen two games (the last two games) but I'd be amazed if Edmund does any better than 2-6 in the decider. :/

Michael Jones, Friday, 27 November 2015 15:05 (2 days ago) Permalink

seemed like Edmund got a bit sloppy at the start of the third and Goffin seized his chance, and now he's finally stopped choking is just out-manoeuvring Edmund...

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 15:16 (2 days ago) Permalink

I've seen lots of comebacks but so rarely such a 180 from "frozen and terrified on court" to "free-flowing and confident"

lex pretend, Friday, 27 November 2015 15:33 (2 days ago) Permalink

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