2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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"Well, I was reading my copy of today's New York Times and I was interested to read about Barack's friends from Chicago," Ms. Palin said at the fund-raiser in Englewood, Colo. "Turns out one of Barack's earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.' Wow."

lolololol

You need to hear that speech with the hoots and laugh track.

bitch knows she totally borrowed her copy of the NYT and should fess up

As someone who has written critically of John McCain on a host of issues, including the Keating Five, none of it compares to the life that Barack Obama has led and his belief system. Obama is not merely associated with domestic terrorists, Palestinian radicals, Marxists, and black liberation ideologues — he was their favorite candidate. They groomed him. They befriended him. He befriended them. He socialized with them. In other words, these people saw Obama as representing their views and aspirations and he saw them the same way. I am not among those who raise Obama's associations but add "of course, it doesn't mean Obama shares their views." Oh really? These miscreants include Obama's former pastor, political mentors and allies, and friends. Obama attempts to downplay and distance himself from his own circle of allies now that he is running for president. But he is one of them. Obama is getting a pass that no other candidate in my memory has ever received.

who is that??

The Venerable Mark Levin

hes thought this the entire time, and just brings it up now that making this point if the current mccain strategy by sheer coincidence

making this point IS the current mccain strategy

They groomed him. They befriended him. He befriended them. He socialized with them. In other words, these people saw Obama as representing their views and aspirations and he saw them the same way.

amazing.

I HAVE IN MY HAND A LIST...

Who are all these people who never disagree with friends/acquaintances?

They groomed him.
http://jewagainstobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/obama-barber.jpg

also lol at http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/birds-of-a-feather-flock-togther/

Check out the sign in the back of the photo, which I am told, says “Allah.”

OHHHH NOOOOOO

all those corner folks have the hardest time hewing to anything approaching reality when writing about obama OR palin.

xp haha nice url on that shit

WAIT WAIT WAIT

http://jews4huckabee.blogspot.com/

it's like, mccain and biden have established political characters and so are loved or hated accordingly, but lookee here it's a black dude and a woman, let's believe whatever we feel like believing gree hee hee!!

xp is that like jews for jesus?

all those corner folks have the hardest time hewing to anything approaching reality when writing about obama OR palin.

actually no: i think the right wing drew a bead on john mccain pretty accurately and early: he's erratic and unreliable as a conservative, vain, willing to compromise on anything at a moment's notice if it catches his fancy to do so, only to switch back later...

i do think there is some kind of cognitive problem those dudes have, and inability to sort out the facts surrounding a public figure who isn't a white dude, and so resort to bizarre flights of fancy (announced as though it were distilled truth, of course)

an inability, not "and"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/06/suffolk_poll_obama_crushing_mccain_in_virginia.html

McCain adviser: Expect cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

no shit

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-john-mccain-officer-black-man-stole-thunder.jpg

yglesias has a line over the past few days that an obama win will mean an increase of crazy racism from base conservatives and probably more GOP campaigns using it overtly, not the reverse. it seems obviously true to me, but there is a lingering idea out there that it will be the final climactic victory for civil rights or something...

Meantime, while all this is going on:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/images/2008/10/06/bush_2.jpg

who's that

Wavy Gravy should not rock the red shorts / black shoes combo.

on left: http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/50/21/0000035021_20061021050341.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/06/opinion/06opchart.950.gif

link

I thought W. would be around 5'8" not 6'0"!! dude looks small on telly

http://media.tumblr.com/hLyH2DZIneqremijVWCdNu44o1_500.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/ipTHaxTAYeqp6vdakWoI6PRKo1_500.jpg

Ha Carter's teeth are showing.

bush is 5'10.5" at best gtfo

During the Presidential campaign, much has been made of Barack Obama’s slender physique, with some commentators going so far as to argue that he is too black thin for most Americans to relate to him. Does candidate height and weight play a role in electoral success? With Mr. Obama and John McCain set to square off in the second of three presidential debates tomorrow, it seemed worth taking a look through recent history.

I'd like to see what that paragraph would read like if there were a Taft fatty in the mix.

Palin: Cutting Taxes Obama’s “Phoniest” Claim Yet

Associated Press

The Alaska Governor keeps up her rough attacks against Obama at a fundraiser in Florida’s Naples Beach Hotel Monday, pushing him on taxes.

Tells donors: “I think that the phoniest claim yet, in a campaign that has been full of phony claims, is that Barack Obama is going to cut your taxes.”

infuriating

It's all she's got.

in other news, if up was down, down would be up:

New on Free Will: Polluting the Polls with Jason Brennan

by Will Wilkinson on October 5, 2008

The election’s coming up! So all public-minded folk should register to vote and get ready to hit the polls, right? Well, maybe not.

In this week’s Free Will, I chat with my friend, Brown philosopher Jason Brennan, about his forthcoming paper, “Polluting the Polls: When Citizens Should Not Vote” [rtf]. His argument is simple and compelling. (This is my indelicate reconstruction, mind you.) People should be public-spirited, and act with the common good in mind. When enough people vote badly–from ignorance or bias, for example–the result is often bad policy. The quality of policy matters to the public good. Higher-quality democratic decisions, and better policy, can be secured if bad voters choose to abstain. Because the personal cost of not voting badly is so low, a public-spirited person shouldn’t do it. And it seems that a lot of people are quite likely to vote badly. So there are many people who, if they care about the common good, ought to choose not to vote.

I completely agree with Jason. (He may not agree with where I’d go from there, however.) I think that many voter participation initiatives promote pretty straightforwardly immoral behavior. That’s not because I think that the state or democracy is illegitimate. It’s just that people shouldn’t do things that help make the world worse when the cost of not doing it is practically zero.

Here’s how I explain the intensity of media propaganda about voter participation in cynical political economy terms. There are more Americans inclined to vote Democrat than Republican. But the poorer and younger Democratic-leaning voters are also least likely to show up at the polls. Therefore, promoting the idea that it is a civic/moral imperative to vote disproportionately benefits the Democratic party by getting higher levels of participation from the poorer and younger voters, at whom much of the marketing blitz is focused. And, of course, the American media establishment overwhelmingly favors the Democratic Party. However, higher levels of voting from these groups pretty much ensures greater electoral pollution. Were most Americans Republican-leaning instead of Democratic-leaning, but the media was exactly the same, I predict we’d see an outpouring of sympathy for positions like Brennan’s from intellectuals and media elites. But, as it is, it’s in the electoral interests of Democrats to scream “disenfranchisement!” any time someone correctly notes that, far from delegitimizing an election, very low voter turnout can improve the quality of democratic choice.

luckily, he's not an 'intellectual' so he doesnt have to think about things before he writes them

I went to shool w/ a Will Wilkinson... interesting...

nope, different people. he looks retarded whereas the will i knew looked like tombot

she was born with a silver foot in her mouth

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whoah that 'essay' openly alleges that when poor people vote they tend to "pollute" our democracy.

Just, wow. Breathtaking.

"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power."

Thomas Jefferson

^^commie

Is the Keating Five thing really going to make any impact on the McCain campaign?