Ideas for ILX

It doesn’t, I have long meant to though

now we are a bunch of people who have heard of lester bangs, we are posters here, welcome, we like to post

― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:19 AM (one hour ago)

tbh I don't know if I've heard of lester bangs but I definitely like to post

hell yeah you're a poster, this has never been in doubt

Oh, we are. It's just that politically speaking, I file you alongside map, Left, and milo, as folks whose perspective is a) frequently counterproductive and b) way over-represented on ILX already.

wait what??? over-represented? ... This is seriously wtf.

this is like arguing the Democratic Party is full of socialists ...

US ilx is very liberal, the left-wing posters are a minority. they just stand out more because people keep arguing with them about the same old shit

This thread rn:
https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2017/12/1052820_1_1218-Amtrak-derailed-Interstate-5_standard.jpg?alias=standard_900x600

#onethread

the left-wing posters that make the effort to participate in the arguments are a minority, and don't constitute all ilxors who share those beliefs -- for me, personally, there are arguments I will engage in on subjects where I feel like my positions would actually be listened to or the argument would be productive. Honestly, the things I will argue about politically are topics where I have more technical knowledge and nerdy info and it's more about pragmatics of policy. ... Everything else though -- it's like, why bother?

I just think if your problem is that ilx is too left wing (wtf), then you can go literally everywhere else on the internet.

gyac otm

the super left-wing posters (which tbh aren't that much further left than me, but do way more in terms of activism) aren't all over ILX, they just happen to post in the politics thread because huh, weird, they're into politics for some reason.

not like we see our average Shitting on the Beatles thread morphing into discussion about Zapatista uprising

^the kind of anti-zapatista psychedelic music revolution talk that has led the movement to the impasse we're in today

the super left-wing posters (which tbh aren't that much further left than me, but do way more in terms of activism) aren't all over ILX, they just happen to post in the politics thread because huh, weird, they're into politics for some reason.

what exactly are you saying here? ... I can read this a variety of ways, and I don't want to make assumptions that piss me off.

I read it as saying that obviously people who are engaged with politics will be vocal on politics threads. And that those conversations/arguments don't tend to spill over into other threads, so what's the big deal?

i'm just saying Phil notices the "far left-wing posters" he dislikes more because he's in the politics thread, where of course they'd all be gathered, so he could easily avoid that and other similar threads if it bothers him so much.

xpost lol emil.y yeah that's what i meant, but you said it more eloquently

I definitely don't see ILX as super left-wing either. It is liberal and leftish. I'd love to see more people who are actually involved in activism here, at least partly because I've withdrawn so much from trying these days, I just cry and complain, and I'd love to be able to talk to people who have ideas about paths forward rather than despair.

honestly that's what i like about those threads, because at least when I was holed up in the house, many gave me great suggestions for organizations to focus my donations on, ones they could vouch for from experience

okay -- that's kinda what I was hoping you meant. For me, I am engaged with politics, but mostly at a local level and about specific things, such that it would be like arguing about the merits of esoteric art-punk bands that only one or two people have even heard of, let alone listen to. ... I have opinions about national and international politics, some of which I feel like discussing on ilx are worthwhile, and others it's like, not worth engaging because of the dominant type of discussion and opinions. ... It's like voting for songs you know will never place in the poll results.

except the dismissiveness or lack of interest isn't aesthetic, it's about ethics and policies that affect real people and cause or alleviate actual suffering.

honestly the biggest barrier when joining this place was the lack of a glossary, what is all this xp, fp, c/d, s&d, poo, pox, challops, otm stuff?

Basically, I appreciate table, sleeve, silby, and gyac (among others) for being outspoken and arguing "on behalf" of the beliefs of posters like me.

xp A lot of those terms are explained in the FAQ, which is in the process of being updated, and which I think/hope is going to be easier to find when the updates are complete. Thanks for mentioning challops and OTM, which I think should go in the explainer as well.

lol i had no idea that otm was an ilx thing until recently, im p sure i have replied to messages with it

on the money is common enough, but the abbrev "otm" is something I've only seen on ilx and among ilxors

otm

I use “otm” off of ilx with some regularity, not sure I’ve ever been asked what I mean, I guess people don’t want to seem uncool

otm

I was under the impression that the general consensus was “on the mark” as opposed to “on the money” (although I myself prefer the latter).

Is tbrr an ilx thing?

tmoney tmachine tgo tbrr

also please tell me it means “to be really real” otherwise I need to be recalibrated

tbrrwu it is an ilx thing

i've never actually known what tbrr means

otm is such a great shorthand that it pains me to not be able to use it in texts and other random correspondence

We decided it was money iirc

there was a thread

OTM

that poll was totally wrong though

otm is such a great shorthand that it pains me to not be able to use it in texts and other random correspondence

if you don't do it, how do you expect other ppl to pick it up

I use it everywhere. Even church.

Jesus otm

I...use OTM all the time. And also say 'challops.'

Oh well, everyone thinks I'm crazy anyway

Has anybody mentioned grocery groin in public

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/outofthemoney.asp

"Out of the money" (OTM) is an expression used to describe an option contract that only contains extrinsic value. These options will have a delta of less than 50.0.

so sez google

just make ABBREVS the landing page, n00bs will learn everything they need to know there

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens) wrote this on thread POPE TO RESIGN WTF? on board I Love Everything on Feb 11, 2013

"Pope otm." is the single greatest sentence ever written on ILX.

in my mind, it's always "on the mark" and not "on the money"

the people have spoken, this is a thought crime

Clearly it means 'on the mend', as in 'your posts sucked so far but they're getting better'.

Anyway, I've tried to get like-minded irl friends (all of whom are heavily left-leaning – sorry, unperson) to check out ILX but they're just not into online discussions with perfect strangers, nor are they criminally addicted music obsessives, so 🤷.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.ENmvFWRwgPC3Pw5ZorAmigHaHa&pid=Api

77 OTM

xp It may take them a little while. I think my brother told me about ILX about a decade before I actually joined.

Otm means "on the look"