MELLON POLLIE AND THE INFINITE SADNESS

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fave track on adore has always been 'to sheila', love the mandolin solo in the middle. i'd totally be down w/ a MCIS that had both 'set the ray to jerry' and 'cherry' on it

i never got into STRTJ but i just soulseek'd it and it does sound pretty stupendous...terrific drumming it's got there.

i read somewhere that someone thought that maybe it was written for d'arcy.

also, that it was flood who put the nix on it being on MCIS.

unsafe levels of muzzle love thread so far

sane people: vote for 1979

*in this

i'm kind of obsessed with the concept of billy releasing "the aeroplane flies high" as the follow up to mcis in a total "fuck you, eat some rawness" move. it would work pretty well split up into 6 sides.

the 12 year old in me wants either "Bodies" or "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and I'm going with the latter...and I still have my copy of aeroplane, loved it back then...

"Bodies" > "Bullet"

Relistening to Zeitgeist (yeah, I know) reminds me how much credit Flood should get for nailing such a diverse set of songs, both on this and "Adore," when producers nowadays will drown a fucking simple rock record in endless overdubs and hyper-compression.

jergins OTM

Anybody else get the Aeroplane Flies High box set? It has some really cool stuff...I remember one super mellow James Iha song especially being great.

I'm gonna go up to the attic and get it.

It has like seven great mellow Iha songs on it. Makes me think he should've just saved them up and released another solo record...then again I suppose Iha makes more off of Pumpkins obscurities than from his actual solo records.

Iha's SP b-sides are alright, but his solo album...who was it that called it "the gayest album ever recorded"? Pretty OTM

My memory was OTM. "Bodies" FTW, "33" close 2nd.

Is any of the stuff on that Machina II album any good? There was never any proper release of that, right? I seem to remember the story was that Billy pressed 25 vinyl copies, and someone made heinous low bit rate rips of the vinyl, and that circulated... am I way off there? Surprised they haven't put that out "properly."

The rips don't sound that bad. "Slow Dawn" is on Judas O and doesn't sound any different from the mp3s of Machina II.

"White Spyder" is good

Machina 2 has some nice things on it, depending what flavor of Pumpkins you go for. It's all less polished than MCIS, but thankfully less overcookeed than Machina itself. For the rawk I would go for "Glass' Theme," "Car Star," "White Spider"... then there are some nice lush midtempo things, mainly "If There Is A God," "Here's To The Atom Bomb," and James Iha's lovely "Go." "Lucky 13" has sweet drumming and a cool weirdo riff, kinda feels like a turned-down "The End Is The Beginning Is The End."

It's all DEFINITELY worth hearing if you're a fan.

It also seems to be where some of the Adore-era rock material ended up, if I understand the chronology correctly. I remember a Spin interview around the time of Adore where the interviewer was like "I visited you in the studio and heard all these awesome rock songs and none of them are on the album" and Billy was like, well, they didn't fit in well, or something like that. I'm almost certain "Dross" is one of those songs, for example - but Ned would be able to clarify...

tonight I heard a dance remix of "Zero"? Anybody know where I can find this?

omg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfTYbqUTZG0

wow, what a find

Hahah, what a cute widdle goth boy he was. "Dude I saw that one Cure Lovecats video, I have an idea!"

but Ned would be able to clarify...

Really, the whole slew of songs recorded from 96-97 onward all become this bizarre mass of material. I'd say just go here and check out individual song histories as best as they are known. (For instance, that indicates "Dross" was done no earlier than late 98, where, say, "For Martha" first hit tape in 1994.)

bumping 1 day early

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Where's the Aeroplane Flies poll?

This is a nigh on impossible choice. I went with "To Forgive" in the end. If I could pick one "loud" one and one "quiet" one it might be a little easier. I might go with "X.Y.U." for my choice for the former.

I hope enough people vote in this to make the results interesting.

Single disc version:

Zero
Thirty-Three
Here Is No Why
Fuck You
Love
Cupid De Locke
Galapagos
Muzzle
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Bodies
In The Arms of Sleep
1979
Thru The Eyes of Ruby
By Starlight

Mellon Collie needs the line "the world is a vampire" in it somewhere.

Where's the Aeroplane Flies poll?

-- billstevejim, Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

^^^^

Do it by disc not song though pls.

haha I made a bicycling mix tape this weekend and it has "Jellybelly" on it 3 times.

Also as a seasoned cynical adult and not an optimistic hormonal teenager, I am really impressed at how strong a reaction I still have emotionally to "Galapagos".

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Surprised bullet did so well!

Dissappointed bullet did so well.

You crazy

Whoever voted "Take Me Down" deserves some credit.

Those three songs deserved at least one vote!

Disappointed bullet did so well.

Ditto. Also how did "Scorched" get two but "X.Y.U." only got one?

"Bullet" is a great song, guys. Admit it. (I wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm certainly not disappointed!)

a lot of people seem to voting, having only heard the singles...

That was my first thought when I saw the results too. The singles are disappointingly prominent, when for me at least they are by far the less interesting songs on the album.

hahah yeah, pretty amazing that the likes of 'thru the eyes of ruby' should be so comprehensively overlooked in favour of the (admittedly more immediate-sounding) 'bullet with butterfly wings'

"1979" a deserving front-runner though (even if I prefer "Thirty-Three").

"Beautiful" should have gotten at least one vote just for the "na na na" part.

"beautiful" is a really sweet track.

GOAT album

is the "Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo" boot any good? I saw them on the tour after this (I think Veruca Salt opened? I was like 11) and I would lvoe to hear what they sounded like, that seems like the msot popular one

No votes for 'Beautiful'? Fuck, man.