jj no. 2: A mix of Scandinavian balearic (I know)/outer space R&B/folk-y gloriousness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8wtUl6Y8zU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg6-IBzZUJg

oh i didn't mean to post the first one! 2nd one, 'you get me', is more similar to what we're talking about, w/the smooth female vox and blissed-out feel.

huh i hadnt thought of that lex--i guesss i can kind of hear it but takahasi seems so clearly to be coming out of a like pat metheny place whereas air france is so st etienne that i wouldnt have compared them

Kate I get yr point above totally. I think I was just thrown because Paris Hilton etc. were reviving ska so much more ostentatiously, this is more like generic ska cues that get mixed with everything.

Also the kuniyuki stuff is awesome. But yeah sort of more Studio vibe than Air France vibe, if you were going to come up with balearic scando-pop reference points.

NO NO NONONONONOOOOO THIS HAS THE DREADED STAMP OF LITE JAZZ ON IT AND MAKES ME WANT TO BREAK FURNITURE

this is more like generic ska cues that get mixed with everything.

which is much more why I don't like it.

one of the things that i find so cool about the concept of balearica or beardsmic is the way you can have studio and air france and takahashi all arrive at similar places but come out of very different traditions

i don't actually hear half as much st etienne as y'all do in air france and jj - i think insofar as st et appeal to me, it's because of their lyrical and melodic focus, not the "moods" they create, so once that's dissipated, i'm left with a whole lot of nothing.

kate im just going to warn you, the deeper you get into anything that gets called "balearic" the closer you get to lite jazz, so you may want to turn back now

haha yeah kate is otm about the lite jazz in kuniyuki. didn't realise it'd be a turn-off!

IIRC kate's favoured strand of balearic is lindstrom et al, which in the context of air france and kuniyuki, seems like a completely different genre

i dont know anything about takahashi but i always assumed he WAS a lite jazz artist who had just been "found" by the mysterious curatorial forces of balearica

I always want to pimp out the first Heather Nova album to everyone, jj reminds me a lot of this but jj is just very nice whereas this is been cherishable since I was 14:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9jEhBjIEZI

when i was first starting to listen to the nu-balearic stuff (& get into the old stuff) i was working at an office where the smooth jazz station was playing all day & i couldnt help but notice the huge overlap between the things i was "discovering" (chris rea & whoever) and the playlists of magic 985 or the wave 1013 or whatever the station was called

From now on all Balearic should be labelled by time of day. Air France is like midday, Lindstrom is closer to 9 or 10pm, Mungolian Jet Set is way past midnight and Studio is sometime after the sun comes up and everyone's still mashed but too exhausted to dance.

takahashi is 4-4:30am imo

kuniyuki is when you abandon the party but can't sleep so you just go and sit in the park all afternoon

ha xp

And you wonder why I get so confused by all these umbrella genres. I like the stuff that sounds like the more wibbly end of Krautrock (comparisons to Tangerine Dream, Cluster, etc.)

Anything that brings in the dreaded SMOOTH JAZZ elements is just too far into botox disco for me.

I do like girly vocals, though, so that was why I was thinking that some of this stuff might be good for me.

So basically Kuniyuki is Air France but kind of soiled by 24hrs of partying?

ARGH GAH does that Heather Nova track ever start sounding any less... Lillith Fair? Do not want. That makes me want to go and listen go the cheesiest French electro I can find.

kate, i'm pretty sure you'd like some of the stuff on the permanent vacation label comp if you haven't already heard it - kathy diamond's 'tic toc', the superpitcher remix of 'iridium' etc...probably shouldn't clog this thread up with youtubes though

kathy diamond's 'tic toc' - 8pm
superpitcher remix of 'iridium' - 4am

i'm not hearing much of a similarity between Air France and 'You Get Me' altho it did remind me of (also Swedish iirc) Koop.

"ARGH GAH does that Heather Nova track ever start sounding any less... Lillith Fair? Do not want. "

yeah I know! the secret is that "lilith fair" is not nec. a bad thing.

A lot of nu-balearic is about redeeming certain stylistic decisions from the aura of bad taste. But I think I'd find the process of listening to a lot of this stuff very traumatic if i didn't already think "lite jazz" or "lilith fair" could mean good music.

Kate would probably like the Isolee remix of Recloose's "Cardiology", but it's not on youtube.

Lillith Fair is an UNBELIEVABLY bad thing. And I'm not just saying that because of the gender implications thereof. (there are so few pidgeonholes that female musicians get stuffed into, but the Lillith Fair "we will heeaaal the earth with our femininity!" one is the one that particularly irks me maybe the most.) I really dislike that end of folk music in particular.

I just went and listened to some Boys Noize remixes until I felt the hair growing back on my metaphorical chest!

I mean, I like girly. I *LOVE* girly, meaning pink wine and lambrini and glitter but Lillith Fair just makes me want to kill small woodland creatures.

I think a lot of stuff (even Sarah McLachlan herself) associated with the dreaded phrase "female singer-songwriter" gets misjudged as some kind of women's fertility god prayer circle soundtrack when the music doesn't correspond to that at all.

But anyway, i like to think any musical strategy, including let's save the woodland creatures with our acoustic guitars, can yield amazing music.

The balearic/beardo/etc scenes are very interested in resurrecting stuff like Sally Oldfield. It would be inconsistent to draw a line there and deny that there's any value in, oh, say, Happy Rhodes.

If it wasn't 2.30 in the morning here I'd start a rolling youtube thread of lillithry.

Thank you, no. I'd rather revive stuff like Wendy and Bonnie, really.

And before you think I'm being sexist, the only thing I hate more than female singer-songwriter is male singer-songwriter. When you've been to as many folk open mic nights as I have, you start to recognise them a mile off and you just want to strangle them with their guitar strings. I know what you're going to do. You're going to do some awful version of She Moves Through The Fair with awful awful wibbling and then you're going to sing some awful song about your indie girlfriend that broke your heart. DO NOT WANT.

i like the heather nova album that maria has. can't remember if its the first one. i like this jj song. for a second i thought it was gonna turn into an everything but the girl song. but it didn't. i like the breeziness.

This record is completely generic but fortunate to be in a genre where 'generic' doesn't really matter yet. Could do with some bass mind, it sounds a bit like a connection of demos.

The Lollipop one made me feel a bit queasy.

it's strange that the song "ecstasy" is called that - despite being very very druggy it falls on the other end of the drugs spectrum, toward the heroin/spacemen 3 side of things

i also like how utterly straightforward and cheap everything is, especially the percussion - it's the opposite of air france's gorgeous meticulous watercolor collages

Tracer have you ever had a smacky pill before? It's a bit like "ecstasy".

Do you remember when ecstasy was an emotion, rather than a drug experience?

Also, what, like Spacemen 3 never had any songs involving ecstasy (as an emotion or an experience or even a song title - erm, hello Ecstasy Symphony, Ecstasy In Slow Motion, etc. etc.)

This is kind of why I hate drugs culture. It's completely hijacked words/phases/sensations that used to be much broader, conceptually.

Or, you know, has added new meanings to words which can in fact be multivalent.

Yeah, because the word "ecstasy" never had any multiple meanings or ambivalence until a drug was named after it...

http://wordbandit.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/the-ecstasy-of-st-teresa11.jpg

Yes, a little pill made all previous usages of the word obsolete & irrelevant for the rest of time.

Hurrah, we've absurdly misread & caricatured each other's arguments.

yeah im sure it was real confusing when the drug got popular and people would take it and go "ecstasy!!!" the other people in the crowd wouldn't know if the person like wanted more drugs or was just really happy or both because you see now the word had more meanings

This sounds like Anything Box to me... Pleasant, but nothing ground-breaking. Not sure how it scored so high at Pitchfork though?

I'm pretty sure that the first line of the song is "When I'm in the club, I'm always on his drug..."

So, you know, kinda reasonable to talk about the more recent version of the word in that context. But correct me if I'm wrong!

In other news, "gay" used to be a great word to describe someone who seemed happy and carefree.

I'll combine this album with the latest El Perro Del Mar thing and end up with a full albums worth of blissed out electro-folk with whispy vocals. Win/Win for me.

this is awesome! it's like Beach House made a disco album.

weird.. this album samples this:

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haha

This isn't anywhere near as good as the El Perro Del Mar record but I do like it a lot.

you can just post a youtube link here and it will embed

anyone else feeling O'Spada? http://www.thefader.com/2009/06/02/freeload-o-spada-time/

swedish boogie. bridge is sorta jamiroquai, but rest is great.

"time" is cool, i havent heard anything else

this doesnt feel very balearic at all tho!

i'd also choose the new el perro del mar album over this jj stuff. her vocals almost always leave me flat- the one exception being "ecstacy" but she's basically rapping there. for this reason i also really dig "intermezzo"

... that o'spada track is great, nobody said it was balearic did they?

just curious why it was getting mentioned in this thread

I cannot get this song out of my head. Except in my head it's this extended fuzz-feedback jam that gets more and more intense and grandiose, like some early Sterolab concert, huge pianos and Leslie speakers and guitar shrieks until you can barely stand it anymore. Which makes the actual song kind of disappointing.

http://i.imgur.com/1bKQ1.jpg

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I was so repulsed I tweeted about it the other day. ~~modern era~~

lana del rey - "west coast"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxuiw3iMBE

tove lo - stay high (habits remix) (feat. hippie sabotage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYM-RJwSGQ8

sorry, i didn't mean "west coast" i meant "ultraviolence":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFWC4SiZBao

Lol this band put an album out recently. Anyone hear it?

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― buzza, Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:27 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am weirdly nostalgic for this kind record and i cant find my copy of it anywhere

loll never knew that quote in 'my way' is charlie manson

"ecstasy" was their only good song