Maybe Mick was hampered because his drum vest hadn’t arrived by studio recording time.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
that buckingham solo video is insane
― satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
i really hate "little lies" lol i grit my teeth thru it every time i listen to this album which otherwise consistently blows me away. it's one of those songs i really associate w/ being in the back of my mom's car in endless traffic jams trying to get home from school or baseball or something. how did it win this poll?
voting for "everywhere" would be cheating so i prob would've gone with "when i see you again" or "big love"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
I can’t really imagine supporting one of the two Stevie non-singles.
― Tim F, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
"Little Lies" is such a perfectly constructed song abetted by sympathetic production that I never tire of it. I often think Nicks' nasally TELL ME LIIIES chorus backup vocal is the shrewdest, most moving of her Mac tenure.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
vs
WASSA MADDA BABY....BABY...BAY-BEE....BABY!
― My life is butthurt so badly (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, September 5, 2009
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
God, I love "wassa madda baby"
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
BABY
ennyoooseeeeeiiiiwanyoooo rmphrumph
That second half, though! I read it was another Nicks scrap that Buck stapled. Beautiful.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
y'all heard this? my god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558bIK_X1ZY
I totally became a Mac-obsessed 11year old at this point, thanks to the Big Love video and some really exploitative documentary that was on UK TV around the release of Tango, with its tales of guitarists going mad and multiple touring Macs... Picked up a cheap copy of that 1980 live album shortly afterwards and was in deep
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
I've not spent a lot of time with the Tango extras, I should but I wasn't hugely enamoured the first time I streamed em. Yeah, obviously a lot of those Nicks tracks were glued together from scraps on the factory floor - really skewed my nascent sense of what a song could/should be at an early age tbh. Maybe in a good way.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
My favorite outtake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYCEWeD_4lg
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
I need to stream em again - I'm not home-schooling tomorrow so hopefully I'll get a chance then!
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link
This was the other thing that ran on UK TV around this time and made me a pre-teen Mac devotee - absolute fire drama and intensity, Lindsey and Stevie look like they're spitting at each other during The Chain... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdolGLi0Ayg
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
I've seen that Mirage tour doc, and, yeah, they're uh jacked up on something
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
Jacked up on love, my friend.
Also, metric tonnes of cocaine.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
Good Bucky demo of "Big Love" here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSWt0b4K8E
One thing I like about it is for a split second he doesn't have the right effect or mix or whatever enacted, but he quickly switches what needs to be switched.
There are lots of revelatory Bucky talks Bucky clips out there. Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCGKFY9NBZY
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
(Hilariously, he gets the time signature of his own virtuoso song wrong and has to be corrected!)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
holy shit that acoustic Big Love is WILD
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
thrilled that that "big love" performance can still blow minds, as it did mine when i was 13 years old
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
I still stan for the original too, which sounded nothing like what I heard on the radio in early '87. The dance remix w/the house piano break is hot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJh72NlHlmc
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
Can someone mount a defense of “You and I Pt II”? I always kind of want this record to flicker out exhausted with “When I See You Again” - the closer feels tacked on and inappropriately jaunty to me, but I am no Mac expert so I am keen to know if it works in some way that I don’t understand.
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link
Listen to it this way, with both parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3SOOUtnJWg
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link
Yeah the jauntiness of the second half makes more sense when it emerges out of the first half.
On the album it feels like an endearing but only partly successful attempt to recreate "Never Forget".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
Ok I can totally see how the full version would work as a closer - but if I had to trim for time I would keep the first half for sure! I mean if they wanted a nothingy little ditty to finish the album on an up note that’d still work fine!
I am over invested apparently but for me this is a perfect sultry summer evening album and a masterpiece of mood and production as much as songwriting - but that last track always breaks the spell a little.
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
^agree with the last part. album is on a very short list of default throw-it-on-because-no-one-should-complain lists for me.
idk, that two-parter "You and I" sounds like a bad iteration of "No. 1 Song in Heaven." the two pieces don't fit right at the seams. that full version would've elevated the album, though.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:24 (three years ago) link
LOVING the two part You & I, tbh
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link
Really digging into extras on the deluxe reissue and damn if there is some good stuff. I have to wonder if Buckingham was on some Prince kick with all of his vocal moves throughout the material.
The subtle changes in the alternate version of “Mystified” have me feeling like that was the kind of sound ABBA would have been putting out if they’d stayed together.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure huge hunks of the album were patched together with a Fairlight. I was blown away learning from the Replacements book that Jim Dickinson used a Fairlight to cobble together acceptable drum takes, and if even the Replacements were (unwittingly) using the Fairlight for that purpose there is no way that Bucky wasn't doing it the same way (and, coincidentally, the same year), especially given members of the Mac were as fucked up as the Mats (and Bucky, if he had his way, probably would have replaced them all with machines if he could have, anyway).
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
Agreed. The “Play in the Rain” section of the album especially popped into my head upon hearing the two parter version of “You and I”
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
Low quality bootleg camcorder recording of "Little Lies" from 1987. Sound quality dicey but comes off well
― if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
Better one from 90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxBP5CnRZwE
― if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
(tho obv no Lindsey on either)
― if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
Burnette/Vito sounds awful.
I want that Stevie cloak.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
yeah they had big shoes to fill and they filled it with....oh u know
― if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link
Reminds me that I've never checked out any footage from the Campbell/Finn tour. I'm really curious, because I can't imagine the addition of either of those guys ever making something worse.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
OK, here's a full show (Little Lies slotted second in the setlist!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHmWxsGLNcU
Sounds fine, the biggest problem is that neither Neil nor Mike sound much like Bucky.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
Admittedly, Nicks hasn't sounded much like herself for 35 years.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link
I have my own biases/tastes, but I've seen Fleetwood Mac minus Christine and they sounded great. I've seen Christine and Bucky tour together without the others and their take on Mac stuff sounded great. I've seen Bucky tour with his own band and he sounded great, too, Mac stuff included. As if it hadn't been demonstrated by his absence before, clearly Bucky as constant is pretty key to the Mac sound from S/T on, either by force of will or force of musical imagination.
Of course, I've seen Stevie solo a couple of times, too, and she was pretty good as well, but she doesn't need to lean *too* hard on the Mac stuff, given all her hits. Bucky sort of comes at it from a different perspective, rewarding people with some Mac stuff for putting up with all of his non-hits. Which admittedly are often pretty great, but he knows they're not substitutes, just alternatives.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
Man, this quaalude mix of “Mystified” with Lindsey doing Mike Oldfield interludes in the guitar is p dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558bIK_X1ZY
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 9 April 2023 11:29 (one year ago) link
i wish i'd grabbed the alt-Tango when it came out for RSD, it's £££s on the discogs now
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 10 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link