ok Jack but which girl?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 14 January 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link
Lol. jack seems the least bad of big tech ceos maybe
― map, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:42 (three years ago) link
https://patrickcollison.com/ is probably less bad
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link
i like pat c
― flopson, Thursday, 14 January 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link
No Jack is a Nazi sympathizer
― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:18 (three years ago) link
He seems like he might be ecofash
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:19 (three years ago) link
He seems like he might be a) an ideological idiot and b) an idiot
either that or for sure a nazi
― shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
luckily he'll still have 2.6 billion to see him through the rough times.
― ledge, Thursday, 14 January 2021 08:35 (three years ago) link
who says that he will actually use the money to provide basic income to poor people? He only says he will "shift the focus" ... like he could follow the example of his buddy at Salesforce and give $30 million to a well-endowed university to "study" UBI
― sarahell, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
I know this is means-testy but if there was ever a group to single out for BI, itβs foster children.https://theappeal.org/the-lab/report/guaranteed-income-for-kids-transitioning-out-of-foster-care/
― DJI, Saturday, 6 February 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
pilot program just launched in St. Paulhttps://www.stpaul.gov/departments/mayors-office/peoples-prosperity-guaranteed-income-pilot#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20Saint%20Paul,of%20up%20to%2018%20months.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 February 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
these people appear to have worked it outhttps://livingincome.org.uk
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/04/universal-basic-income-of-1600-pounds-a-month-to-be-trialled-in-england
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 June 2023 22:01 (ten months ago) link
1600 pounds of what?
I'm sorry.
― dan selzer, Monday, 5 June 2023 01:40 (ten months ago) link
churned butter. itβs radical but weβre living in extreme times
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 June 2023 07:53 (ten months ago) link
East Finchley?!
― nashwan, Monday, 5 June 2023 10:29 (ten months ago) link
there isn't much to be learned about what impact ubi would have on society by paying it to 30 people, it needs to be nationally trialled, ya bunch of tight gits.
― calzino, Monday, 5 June 2023 10:39 (ten months ago) link
i need all the details before i relocate to Jarrow
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 10:44 (ten months ago) link
at least it would cover a week's rent for a box room with no sink in East Finchley
― calzino, Monday, 5 June 2023 10:56 (ten months ago) link
it's going to have a different psychological impact on the recipients than a national ubi rollout would. With them knowing they are part of a small and quite lucky sample group. Their mentality is going to be that of prize winners. Wahey, I'm going to the bookies and the pub every day this week.
― calzino, Monday, 5 June 2023 11:02 (ten months ago) link
Pretty rough if you sign up for the trial and they stick you in the control group!!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 June 2023 11:07 (ten months ago) link
"Sorry, sir, you're getting the placebo."
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 June 2023 12:11 (ten months ago) link
confirmation on the statement that 1600 HASN'T been credited to their account every month might cause them to have a very negative attitude
― calzino, Monday, 5 June 2023 12:19 (ten months ago) link
Pretty small sample group I thought.
Also, in the end this will just be another piece of data ppl can wave around to show that it's a good idea while the govt answers "no", right?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 5 June 2023 13:22 (ten months ago) link
yup, pretty much like the other trials we've seen
― Nhex, Monday, 5 June 2023 13:32 (ten months ago) link
a fascinating waste of time trying to evidence UBI when the counter arguments will all involve red faced journalists shouting about the workshy and magic money trees and the counter arguments will be successful
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 13:45 (ten months ago) link
any idea that you can convince the UK state of is probably not an idea worth having
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 13:47 (ten months ago) link
The fact that the UK is considering a trial of UBI surprises me.
I wonder if the aim is to try it so they can kill it off and say it has been discredited.
Or maybe the internal politics of government are more complicated than that.
I believe that on balance, UBI would be a good thing and could improve our society.
― the pinefox, Monday, 5 June 2023 14:42 (ten months ago) link
steady on there
― serving bundt (sic), Monday, 5 June 2023 15:03 (ten months ago) link
I think this latest trial is being run by the Autonomy think tank, so it's not govt sponsored. There has been a three-year pilot of 500 care leavers running in Wales since last summer however. Think it could feasibly be introduces in some limited way by one of the devolved authorities.
― Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 5 June 2023 15:10 (ten months ago) link
Heartbreaking that every time we get media attention for basic income work, the inbox fills up with people desperate to be included in any trial β along with accounts of how a cruel, conditional welfare system has let them down— Jack Kellam (@Jack_Kellam_) June 5, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 June 2023 15:20 (ten months ago) link
for real
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 June 2023 15:24 (ten months ago) link
Everyone is talking about a universal basic income today. I think itβs a bad idea, and that we need Universal Basic Services instead (UBS) - where we have free education, healthcare & transport, alongside a massive expansion of social housing. From my TED talk last year. pic.twitter.com/8rglnOiBHg— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) June 5, 2023
A rejection of UBI.
But if we can't have UBS, maybe UBI is better than nothing?
― the pinefox, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:43 (ten months ago) link
if ubi is offered as an alternative to basic services, its bad
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:20 (ten months ago) link
It only makes sense as part of a broader network of services and controls on rents and prices, yeah
― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 07:01 (ten months ago) link