The Strokes - Trying Your Luck
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 11:02 (three years ago) link
In an effort to avoid the tedious work I'm supposed to be doing irl I've spent the morning digging through non-standard pattern length music to try and find more 5 bar examples. So far, the verse pattern on Eleanor Rigby is probably the most well known 5 bar pattern afaict? Radiohead - Idioteque is also based around a 5 bar loop with occasional flips to a 2 bar pattern.Not sure how 'transcendant' these are, but there are a few examples of hiphop guys giving the 5 bar loop a shot:Busta Rhymes & Q Tip - Don't GoJay-Z etc - Brooklyn's FinestJay-z - Hovi BabyJonWayne - City LightsMobb Deep - ClapPete Rock / 9th Wonder - Am I Dreaming?There are also a few cases of using 5 bar patterns as a trick for a suspenseful outro, eg:Deerhunter - Desire Lines (outro)Guns & Roses - November Rain (outro)There is likely loads more obscure synth stuff that fits the 5 bar bill, eg; East India Youth - Glitter Recession. Whether this is intentional or a side effect of noodling around on a modular synth I don't know.;)Other notable bits I came across:Quasi - I Give Up (once it gets going)The Fall - 'Smile' (kind of could work as 5 bars depending on how you count it ;))
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link
yeah Desire Lines was what made me start this thread
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
Whoops, forgot it was mentioned already :)
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
but - good research haha, ty for contributing to the quest
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
Stereolab - Refractions In The Plastic Pulse
From around 4:30, also in 5/8
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
I'd say November Rain, great as the outro is, doesn't really pursue transcendence in quite the same tail-chasing way - the best thing about a 5-bar cycle is that it can give the impression of having no beginning point, it is constantly unresolving
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link
whereas the November Rain cycle is a very standard 4-bar cycle with a very obvious start-point that adds an extra bar's widdling to really make the point
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link
When I opened this thread I happened to be listening to Miles Davis' "Johnny Bratton (Insert 1)" from the Complete Jack Johnson Sessions, and it does exactly this. I feel like there are lots more songs I love that do this, but I'm blanking at the moment...
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
I kind of want to say "Gouge Away"...?
I think Gouge Away works. Frank Black's also got at least a few 5-bar cycles in his solo catalog:
Dog in the SandThe MarsistI Switched YouParry the Wind High, Low (last section)
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
That reminded me of something similar at the end of "No. 13 Baby", but it turns out that is a 3 and a half bar repeated cycle.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
it's 4/4 but has a 5-bar chord progression which is a bit awkward yeah but that's also one of the things that makes it interesting
― ufo, Thursday, 6 April 2023 23:00 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
re: Hey Ya lol
― imago, Friday, 7 April 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link