Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

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There was an article in The Guardian a week ago or so about a French bill aimed at combating accent-based discrimination and the tone was so baffled and amused that I couldn't help but wonder whether the author ever considered that it's no less pressing an issue in the UK (or so it seems to me, speaking as a foreign spy).

pomenitul, Sunday, 6 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

I would have thought more pressing but like several centuries too late.

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 December 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

But then that's the Guardian for you!

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 December 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

Ha, I only just got that "what's it like finally having money?" was a dig.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 December 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

although tbf a lot of this was coming from the rock press; this clip almost makes me wonder if Zep got comparatively more respect from high-culture outlets.


iirc, a woman was set to travel with the group to write a piece for, I wanna say, the New Yorker? Or maybe Esquire? But she was assaulted by Bonham on the plane, naturally refused to continue with the band, and word got around that it might not be safe to hang with them.

At some point around ‘73 I think Peter Grant hired a publicist to get Zep into more “respectable” papers and magazines. He was pissed that the Stones were getting thinkpieces by Truman Capote while Zep were handily outselling them (records and tickets). At some big stadium show, the publicist noted the full house and said to Grant, “Whaddyou need me for? Look at all these people!” Grant said, “Yeah, but we’re still not reaching those people,” gesturing to the streets around the venue.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

why are these creeps not cancelled

Left, Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

The Power of Crowley

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

It was Ellen Sander from Life.

Wait, though, I thought cancelling wasn't a real thing.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

well, you can't "callout" a credit card

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

If you’ve already seen a parrot singing Led Zeppelin today just keep on scrolling...pic.twitter.com/UjewCOflIx

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) January 18, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

sounds kind of like that David Lee Roth isolation tape

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

Percy the parrot cuts loose

calstars, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

"Free bird!"

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link

ZOINKS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJEhfVyCvw

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDbRlHLpPw4

Bob Plant dusts off his Song Remains the Same dream sequence cosplay outfit

calstars, Saturday, 24 April 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

Meeting with Lord Johnson, visiting dignitary from the land of the dwarves. There was much exposition and remembrance of past migrations among the shadows of yonder misty mountains

calstars, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

What the fuck? Why the fuck?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

That might be the best thing in the world! There are clips of Johnson hanging out with Billy Joel, Dolly Parton, Sting, Mark Knopfler, Nick Mason ... I'm in!!!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

Yes, he has a TV show on some channel over here where he just hangs out with famous people. For no apparent reason.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

haha wow I need to see that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

WE GONNA GO
WALKING THROUGH THE PARK EVERY DAY

Cool it Bob

calstars, Thursday, 14 October 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

so chilling. i always picture a foggy park.

brimstead, Thursday, 14 October 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

🖼
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Never Forget

calstars, Thursday, 14 October 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

It's very paisley to me, a little A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 15 October 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

Kashmired and Confused

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link

I only recently listened to Anne Bredon's original 1959 recording of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" which she wrote, and was covered a year later by a folksinger named Janet Smith who altered the arrangement some. Then Joan Baez recorded it live in 1962 based on Smith's version, making it famous (and who erroneously thought it was a traditional folk song of unknown origin, which is how it was often miscredited for the next decade). Then the Association recorded it for their first single in 1965. Several other bands recorded it after that, including Quicksilver Messenger Service. You can definitely hear the evolution in each recording from the one before, but I'd barely recognize Bredon's take as even being the same song as Zep's if I only heard those two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9VpWAEk6aI

Lee626, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

Is this the song In which little Robert Anthony desires to take the subject waking in the park everyday? I lose track

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

Yep.

That clip BTW is of the first two known versions of the song by Anne Bredon and Janet Smith. A band called The Plebs did a nice version of it too which perhaps sounds most like the Zeppelin version of the ones that predate it.

Lee626, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

Quicksilver Messenger Service was also playing it live pretty early on, predating Led Zep.

earlnash, Sunday, 24 October 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

This is the folk method, folks (which doesn't excuse not crediting authors).

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Sunday, 24 October 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link

I was framing of the chromatic drama last night and by chance today Dazed was played at the bar

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

“Oh yeah…oh god”

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

As it happens I spent quite a few foggy teenage mornings walking on Hampstead heath with the first two Zeps (on tape) but no babe ;-(

Noel Emits, Monday, 25 October 2021 10:09 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Coming here preemptively to say that while I respect that he struggled to come up with even 10 tracks he'd consider the worst of Led Zeppelin, Alfred including "No Quarter," "Your Time is Gonna Come," "Gallows Pole" and "Thank You" on his list is nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

haha

I love Zep III but a song about a hanging always struck me as eh.

"No Quarter"? More like "No Tempo."

J'Ran J'Ran ruined "Thank You" for me, or, rather, they deserved each other.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

No Quarter riff is sick

quiet coyote (morrisp), Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link

They always had sick riffs.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link

“No Quarter” is easily top ten LZ for me. The others I can take or leave.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 December 2021 12:20 (two years ago) link

"Thank You" is the best impersonation of the Small Faces I've ever heard.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 December 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link

“No Quarter”: soporific, or sopor-riffic?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 December 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

Super-terrific, more like. That song is all about that heavy riff, the way it intrudes on the keyboard interludes like a rude guest at a psychedelic retreat. In a lot of ways it's the closest they ever came (in terms of style) to Black Sabbath.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link

"No Quarter" would also be in my top-ten (though I can live without ten minute live keyboard solos), and I love "Southbound Saurez" too, while "Hats Off" might be their all-time worst.
I'm surprised you didn't include any slow blues, and nothing from Coda (which would probably include three of their bottom ten for me).

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's telling that you have to scrape the bottom of Zeppelin scraping the bottom to find the bottom.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

Including a drum solo feels like a cheat. But if they'd used the riff from "Moby Dick" for an actual song, they'd probably have had something.

I listened to Presence two nights ago and it dropped significantly in my estimation. It sounds like demos half the time — I don't think there are more than two tracks of guitar on it! — and the whole thing is just completely uninspired and enervated, except for "Achilles Last Stand," which still rules. By the time I got to "Tea For One," which would absolutely make my list of worst LZ songs, I was halfway comatose (just like Jimmy Page, probably!).

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

are you guys forgetting 'Hot Dog'

calstars, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

"Hots Off" is easily top ten Zep: it took several albums to release a track with so many delightful hairpin turrns.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

"Tea For One" >>> "Since I've Been Loving You."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

*Hots On obv

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

Forget it ilx, it's Alfredtown.

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link


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