Favorite SST releases?

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Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - My War
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
SST Acoustic comp (totally forgotten album with people like The Last, Kirk Kelly and Angst who you might balk at sitting thorugh a whole album of, but get their good stuff represented on here)

The two Volcano Suns on SST, Farced and Thing of Beauty, have their moments but drag after a while. The latter is like 72 minutes long so this is problematic.

I remember hearing Bias and being surprisingly taken with it. With that, Oxbow and Fatso Jetson I think there might be a case for SST's last stand being underrated.

They were releasing an album a week in the late 80s though weren't they? Clearly *productive* potheads, if nothing else.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

the first dino jr. album was released on homestead...

under the "Dinosaur Jr." name, it wasn't

Getting even more analaller than you's twos, the first 'jr' record was the fucking crummy 'Show me the way' EP on SST. You're Living All Over Me came out as just plain old Dinosaur to start with, but got changed for later issues.

We were reminiscing about SST on the Zoogz Rift thread the other day. Slovenly fans might be sad to hear that one of the guitarists, Scott Ziegler, died last year :o(

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and if no-one else is going to mention the Dicks, then I fucking will. (Not sure about Sister Double Happiness though!)

Now riddle me this: what does SST stand for?

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

solid state transistors

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link

Message boards are the new ham radio!

I was going to interview Greg Ginn recently (obv. anyone can at this point, even me), but it all seemed kind of sad and he has some weird cat obsession now and no one else cared about it, but me.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:34 (twenty years ago) link

Re: what Mencap said about the Volcano Suns Thing of Beauty. Even Peter Prescott has admitted that it was way too long cuz they were trying to accomodate everyone's songs. But hey, it does have some great songs on it.

It's weird how Angst have become erased from people's minds. I still quite like Mystery Spot. Weren't they one of the Pixies influences? I seem to recall that Frank Black's advert for band members supposedly asked for people influenced "by Angst and Husker Du".

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

Put me down as another vote for Double Nickels

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link

Damnit Chaki beat me to it

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

"Husker Du and Peter Paul & Mary" is the oft-quoted ad. I don't recall Angst being mentioned but I could be wrong. Yeah, there is a good single album in Thing of Beauty but I wouldn't overall recommend it to anyone unless you saw it for peanuts and are interested in anything with Bob Weston on. Like I am.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I've seen Peter, Paul & Mary being quoted, but I'm honest-to-God sure that it was Angst that they mentioned in a Melody Maker interview in '88, cos I remember thinking 'wow, they like Angst!'. And they didn't get mentioned often in the UK press... Hmmm, this is exactly a case of that Angst-erasure I'm telling you about! ;o)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

That "No Age" instrumental compilation was about 50% good, esp. the Fred Frith track from "The Technology Of Tears". Some of the spoken word releases on New Alliance were ok too, the compilations mostly.

Angst actually played in the UK with Dinosaur Jr in 1987 (I know cos I was there), around the same time the Pixies were starting to become the New Thing. As I recall it they were way better then Dino Jr, who were always terrible live.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

Didn't everyone hate Angst for awhile because one of the guys ran Systematic, which went bankrupt?

mike a, Friday, 12 March 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc600/c671/c67159w46sq.jpg

ddb, Friday, 12 March 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

Mike, yeah, I think that was Joe Pope.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 March 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

Strongo, what do you mean by the S/T Sacch Trust alb - the Pagan Icons 12" or Surviving You, Always? But yeah, they're both essential, anyway.

Doctor Wu by the Minutemen was the first time I ever heard someone sing that stupid song, so that's a fave of mine...

Has there been a Homestead C or D? Ahhh sweet 80s hardcore nostalgia... (are all types of music called Hardcore great, btw?)

Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

ddb ON THE MONEY
chuck off the money

chuck you need to hear lawndale's sasquatch rock again, especially with your genre-bending hearing aids in. there's this crazy "whole lotta love"/"take five" medley (90s us indie band paid tribute to with equally screwy "take five" - fab four's "he's so heavy" = unity cover).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

my favorite as-yet-unmentioned SST band were Treacherous Jaywalkers.

The only band from my home town, Pacific Palisades CA, to actually "make it". Colin, you seriously could stand their version of "La Isla Bonita"?

The more underrated Pacific Palisades band with SST influences but with proto-Polvo/psych rock sounds was MUSTARD. I'd be happy to digitize their (I think one and only) self-titled 7" from 1990 with "Burn The Green" and "Song For D." on it for interested folks. (you can obviously guess who "D." refers to).

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 12 March 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago) link

They played "La Isla Bonita" about twelve times one night when Hated played with them in Bozeman, Montana. I thought they were great -- really good songwriting, and they could barely play, but in "trying way too hard" way rather than a "don't give a fuck" way. Lovely, lovely people, too. Needless to say, I was disappointed by Spain.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Saturday, 13 March 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago) link

proto-polvo? that is awesome

christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 13 March 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

Wow...amazed to see mention of Angst. Next thing you know we'll be talking about Slovenly.

Opal's "Happy Nightmare," Minutemen, first three Meat Puppets, Volcano Suns OTM.

The Divine Horsemen's "Middle of The Night" was on SST, wasn't it? I loved that record.

M. Specktor, Saturday, 13 March 2004 10:42 (twenty years ago) link

Another fine gem is the PaperBag album Ticket To Trauma.

Cosgrove Pennybaker, Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

Search/Destroy - SST & Homestead

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 13 March 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

Hüsker Dü ... is the only reason i know sst....

strapped-on records, Saturday, 13 March 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

proto-polvo? that is awesome

to be fair, Polvo were already active at the time, but the more bent aspects of the band's guitar playing (mainly Ash's playing) wouldn't be accented until a little later.. and I didn't mean to imply the band were an influence on them of anything, but I hear a little bit of that in one of the songs.. minor comment, really.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

MINUTEMEN
Double Nickles on the Dime
What Makes a Man Start Fires
WURM
s/t
HUSKER DU
Zen Arcade
New Day Rising
MEAT PUPPETS
1
2
Up on the Sun
Out In the Gardener 7"
SACCARINE TRUST
Surviving You, Always
BLACK FLAG
My War
Loose Nut
SCREAMING TREES
Invisible Lantern
Even If, and Especially When

Avoid:
Minuteflag
Zoogz Rift
Elliot Sharp

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 14 March 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

All that's left now (photo taken today)

http://www.quartzcity.net/~chris/ilx/sst1.jpg

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.quartzcity.net/~chris/ilx/sst2.jpg

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

wow!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

THE DREAM IS DEAD

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

Poignant

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 March 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link

Kinda beautiful. Thanks Chris!

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 15 March 2004 11:29 (twenty years ago) link

wow. Nicely done, Chris....

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

I feel like there should be a "COMING SOON - STARBUCKS!" sign up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
SST top 10.

Bl'ast-the power of expression. (It pains me that even most of you guys don't know this band and this album).

Husker Du-zen arcade.

Black Flag-slip it in.

Husker Du-metal circus.ep.

Black Flag-my war.

Dinosaur Jr-you're living all over me.

Minutemen-double nickels on the dime.

Black Flag-damaged.

Black Flag-the first four years.

Meat Puppets-2.

Ellis From Die Hard, Monday, 6 June 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
Oxbow - Serenade In Red
Sonic Youth - Sister
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me
Black Flag - The First Four Years

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 6 June 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Hell, I would have mentioned the other Negativland releases like Helter Stupid and Guns, too.. but almost all of them are now Seeland reissues.. except for Guns, which is, for some reason, remaining on SST. *shrug*

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 6 June 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Tar Babies's Fried Milk is a great unsung SST album...

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 6 June 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
like many of them... meat puppets, sacc trust, painted willy and:
the first roger manning - superb!

jacques bush, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Heh, I never knew Scott linked to my SST discography thingy. The old link is dead but it's still online:

http://macdaraconroy.com/experiments/misc/sst_discog.txt

I haven't added the new stuff yet, and I never got around to writing up discogs for New Alliance, Cruz and Issues.

MacDara, Saturday, 2 August 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks, I just tried to look at the old one!

sleeve, Saturday, 2 August 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

SST Acoustic comp (totally forgotten album with people like The Last, Kirk Kelly and Angst who you might balk at sitting thorugh a whole album of, but get their good stuff represented on here)

-- DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, March 12, 2004 11:09 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^still this - I like basically every song on this comp

DJ Mencap, Sunday, 3 August 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Tar Babies's Fried Milk is a great unsung SST album

After getting a digital copy of this recently, agreed. But really there are so many great unsung SST albums.

Bl'ast-the power of expression. (It pains me that even most of you guys don't know this band and this album).

I'm sorry but It's In My Blood! is a far better album (and Take the Manic Ride would be good too without the shitty production). Alas, they had a sound too far ahead of their time.

MacDara, Friday, 3 October 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

But... isn't Bl'ast's sound basically a mix of Damaged & My War? I mean that's great and everything but it's not exactly ahead of it's time.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 3 October 2008 11:13 (fifteen years ago) link

All the classic Meat Pups, Husker, Minutemen, fIREHOSE etc: but I also realy like the first s/t Buffalo Tom album

MaresNest, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, that first Buffalo Tom album was basically the soundtrack to me skiving off lectures all day and generally fucking up at university. Every time I see it now I feel like a loser all over again. That and the first Anastasia Screamed record, the one with the pink cover.

NickB, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link

But... isn't Bl'ast's sound basically a mix of Damaged & My War? I mean that's great and everything but it's not exactly ahead of it's time.

Ah that's what everyone always says, but have you ever actually listened to them? The time changes and other intricacies place them as far away from Black Flag as, say, the Minutemen and Sac Trust are.

MacDara, Friday, 3 October 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure, I dig Power Of Expression and I agree completely about Take The Manic Ride being good if it weren't for the (really) shitty production, I'm not sure about It's In my Blood being better but I like that too. I guess I didn't think anything in particular about their sound hadn't been done previously by Black Flag/Greg Ginn's guitar playing in particular. Not that that makes it any less great to listen to.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

New Day Rising, with Meat Puppets II close behind.

Jazzbo, Friday, 3 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

The SST albums by Meat Puppets, Dinosaur Jr. and Buffalo Tom have been remastered. What's next? I think Sister in a double deluxe pkg is due sometime soon. Hard to tell if a remaster would do much for Husker Du or Minutemen.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 October 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link


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