Lansing-Dreiden-The Incomplete Triangle:Album Of The Year?

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I sense a coming turf war, with bodies in the wake.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Your position strikes me as Rockism Case Study Numero Uno, Chris. Ignore the musical triumphs because the group is not authentic enough and their songs do not have enough relevant content.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It feels to me like there's this wordplay in your review. You write some of their compositions off, for example, as "academic run-throughs." The use of the term "academic' strikes me as a sort of smokescreen. In the context of trying to paint them as *art school poseurs* or whatever, it's convenient for you to use the term "academic" against them. Naturally, the intent was not just to reinforce your argument about their allegedly (pretentious/shallow) *art school* approach, but to characterize the compositions themselves as "academic," i.e., as merely rote genre exercises. All I can say is that I am not convinced by this criticism.

Similarly, you use the adjective "lifeless" to describe their songs, which I find convenient given some of the stylistic attributes of the music (i.e., New Wave as cold, robotic, etc.). Again, though, the description is meant as a criticism of the QUALITY of the music, and unless you are criticizing the New Wave/New Wave Revivalism aesthetic of coldness/roboticism/etc. in general (i.e., Nick Heyward's vocals sucked because they were too LIFELESS), I'm not sure why the criticism is particularly relevant to Lansing-Dreiden.

This is the entirety of your critique in that review apart from an accusation of "grotesque orchestrations," of which you do not cite an example.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

CHRIS, YOU SERIOUSLY READ LIKE YOU'RE INSANE.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 27 May 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
LIVE BAND KILLED IT. GO SEE THEM!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i heard they were bad live. but I want to see them regardless b/c their "section II" set up sounds both horrifying and intriguing at the same time

kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

they were radd

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

You wouldn't expect anything less, really.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i just read above comments in thread. that review by chris is so annoyingly hypocritical. he's acting like all the things he's accusing them of being. that said, they are pretentious and kind of dicks in person, but that first album was and is one of my favorites albums. Just have to look beyond who they are as people. i think you should too chris

kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

the band members i met were super nice!!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

just saw them live and it wasn't great but it wasn't bad

kevin barking (arghargh), Sunday, 2 July 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
just got this e-mail:


Hey All,

We are doing a show as part of the "Starbucks Salon" series tomorrow at
7pm. The show is free. Here is the info:

L-D Section II - 7pm
Starbucks Salon
76 Greene St.
FREE

Hope you can come!

L-D

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

love this band, hate them live though


what to do

()()()---()()() (internet), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

WHATEVS THAT BASS PLAYER KICK ASS

chaki (chaki), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
WHAT IS THIS CD THEY SPEAK OF????:


Just a quick reminder about our show at Hiro Ballroom tonight...

Also wanted to mention that we'll have copies of our new CD 'D.I. by
D.D.' available at the show.

Hope you all can make it!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ITS A REMIX CD

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't sold when I got promos of some of their first stuff, but the tracks I've been hearing lately are amazing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Incomplete Tiangle out of print now? I can't seem to find it, except used.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not just posting because I am bored. I'm actually interested in buying this, based on what I've heard from it.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I bought Dividing Line and don't like it that much so far, but I think I would like Incomplete Triangle more. This is okay though.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

IT much better than DI

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
I had put Dividing Island aside for a few months, but listening to it again recntly, it's better than I initially gave it credit for. They actually write some pretty decent melodies, for one thing, and there is soemthing fascinating by how familiar some of it sounds, without submitting to being pinned down to this or that possible source (something I think scott commented on very effectively).

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

And what is this:

http://www.lansing-dreiden.com/2006/DIbydd/index.htm

some kind of remix or mashup thing?

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh looks neat

chaki, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

dividing island has moments when it sounds like spoonfed hybrid.

keythkeyth, Thursday, 12 April 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know them (and probably a million other bands that would be relevant to the discussion). At first I thought that was just a description, but then I thought, wait, I'd better check to see if there's a band by that name.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i still have never heard that remix thing. i need to listen to dividing island again too, cuz i'll bet it sounds different than i remember.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 April 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm. So they sent me a myspace invite kinda out of nowhere, I assume. And in listening the first thing I thought of was the Beta Band -- not a criticism or complaint, I should note -- and I searched this thread and nobody's mentioned them at all as a comparison point! I'm actually pretty surprised.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

In my case, that's because I have never heard the Beta Band. Are they good?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I only know a few LD songs, didn't like them at first but either they got better or they grew on me. The few songs I've got are some of my faves of recent years. I guess I was turned off by some early EP that I got as a DJ promo that sounded like a weird mix of john robie era new order and then typical post-punk/new wave revivalism but somehow not interesting. In any case, I've come around.

And I only know the Beta Band's 3 eps release, but I can't say I see the similarities.

And yeah, Tim, they're pretty good and pretty interesting. Kind of a folky/trip-hoppy thing with psychedelic influences. I know that sounds terrible, but they were good! Half of them have a new band called the Aliens who sounded even more krautrock/cosmic.

dan selzer, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link


And I only know the Beta Band's 3 eps release, but I can't say I see the similarities.


I was thinking more later than that, Hot Shots II stuff.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

As for LD, I don't have anything against what I heard, but it's not making me think, "Right, I need to go back to that" offhand. There's a lot of music out there and not much of it hits my repeat function these days. We'll see.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

honestly, after listening to both albums tonight, they sound even stranger and more out of time than when they came out. I mean, they always existed in their own geodesic dome of a universe, but now that the bad taste of bad 80's pastiche has almost completely left my mouth, I hear both records in , um, the context of no context. i mean, they are just CDs that have been sitting around forever and that I haven't listened to in ages. and they are even further removed from something that they really had nothing to do with at the time. that 80's thing that was mostly dud in my book. the last 80's thing. not the one before that. having said that, i'm looking forward to the solo album by the guitarist from the faint. digi-metal. and signed to relapse! where is colin the mole, anyhow?

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i take it back. i just listen to dude's myspace. the faint dude's myspace. it's horrible.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

the faint is the worst band

chaki, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

and is relapse just reissuing an old album of his? oh whatever.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw the faint in philly way back when and the only time they roused me from my stupor was when they played enola gay. they did a nice version.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the faint had one ok song (not the one about strippers) but that one album of theirs i have is wretched

electricsound, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just thinking about Lansing-Dreiden. I still love them.

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

they got the synths right. but they had no songs. i was more of a reggie & the full effect fan. as far as emo-identified 80's goofs go. and i even liked reggie's metal songs! dwarf invasion!

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i am wearing a Lansing-Dreiden shirt

chaki, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

sweet

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

ok the new free ep available for free on the site is THE SHIT

taun taun johnson, Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

;)

jaxon, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

LISTENING NOW

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for the heads up!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

of course i can't help but want the song "tri" to keep going for another five minutes.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the head zup.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Ultimately, The Incomplete Triangle is exactly what Lansing-Dreiden claim it is: Art. But I have to tell you, I don't spend a lot of time listening to Art. I listen to Music

(Dying here)

Grabbing new EP now!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

psyched for this, thanks

cutty, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link


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