Why are Pulp so unpopular now?

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I think not having a bonus CD has hit sales hard. I'd guess that carry on up the charts wouldn't have been as much as a success (2 million+ copies) without the initial sales push from the bonus cd. The casual buyer is looking to buy something for Christmas and looks at the choice between Pulp or the U2 or Foo Fighters Cd with the bonus CD/DVD and they'll go for quantity over quality.

An extra CD of bonus remixes or whatever may also sway the diehard fan who wouldn't purcahse it for the one new song.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 22 November 2002 12:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think those kind of bands Jerry are the ones with lots of medium-size hits that hang around the chart and get continued airplay, so when the GH comes out they can pull a "you know more of these than you think" Crowded House trick. Not many Pulp hits have that kind of recognition.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 22 November 2002 12:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

The only Pulp hits that yr 'casual buyer' is probably going to know and want are the Different Class ones, and since Different Class sold well over a million in the UK, it's a pretty safe bet that aforementioned casual buyers already have this.

Hits has tremendous sleevenotes, though. And I like the cover very much, even if others don't. And not buying it would have left a gaping hole in my CD collection that I was all-too-conscious of. These are my excuses, if I need any.

― alexfack (alexfack), Saturday, 23 November 2002 14:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

Number 71! Well, that's something...

― alexfack (alexfack), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

They're un-popular because brit-pop sucked the first time around, but now they're just taking the piss.

― Callum (Callum), Sunday, 24 November 2002 20:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

didn't jarvis also direct the video for the rave version of 'sailing'?

(if you've not had the pleasure, it goes - and you'll be shocked by this - "we are raving, we are raving" etc.)

it was actually less good than this suggests.

― adam b (adam b), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm 99% certain Jarvis did "Donkey Rhubarb". Shame Pulp's GH is doing so badly, as it's really very sensibly chosen. The Manics' one was atrociously chosen.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 25 November 2002 11:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Because they're not funny anymore! Apart from "Bad Cover Version".

― B.Rad (Brad), Monday, 25 November 2002 12:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

But they were never only funny. They were also sad.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 25 November 2002 17:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

[boobie picture]

― kicken, Monday, 25 November 2002 17:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

'acrylic afternoons' - sexiest uk pop record ever.

'on a pink quilted eiderdown i'm gonna...(deep breath)
pull y' knickers down...net curtains blowing slightly in the breeze,
lemonade light filters through the trees and it's so soft
and it's warm just another cup of tea please...'

― piscesboy, Monday, 25 November 2002 19:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

Shame Pulp's GH is doing so badly, as it's really very sensibly chosen. The Manics' one was atrociously chosen.

What's on the Pulp one then? Mind you I pretty much agree with you about the Manics' one, I mean fucking hell I now own not one but two CDs that include the song "Tsunami". I have come to quite enjoy If You Tolerate This... though.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Revive!

Because from within my grime, crunk, and general beatheadfuckery haze, I suddenly felt the urge to listen to "59 Lyndhurst Grove" and wow, this band could be really good sometimes, couldn't they? His N Hers sticks out as particularly great, but I particularly like all of the second half of Intro - where else can I find the good, weird stuff? I used to have that album with the green cover that preceded Intro, can't remember the title...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sorry to get all Calum on yous.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Separations, that's it.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

Your rediscovered love is wondrous.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

I guess so!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

Those boobs that kicken posted are the quintessential "indie tits".

― X RATED TYRONE, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

My question is, how did Pulp become popular in the U.S. at all? I mean, not that they're mega-popular, but I know SO many people who don't have incredibly large or diverse record collections but own Different Class. The same people maybe like Blur, too, but they at least made some inroads here -- I can't recall ever hearing "Common People" on the radio.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 06:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

Maybe they weren't so much on the radio, but "Mile End" was on the Trainspotting soundtrack, which could've lead a lot of people to Different Class.

― E. (ebb), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 07:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oddly enough, at the time of Different Class's release, I heard "Underwear" more than any other Pulp track on U.S. Radio.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 07:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

not to get all nick hornby on you, but they were the one act ALL of my anglophile friends loved

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

A certain somebody writing about a past P&J (I haven't really found the proper place and thread to post this on, so here it goes):

Anyhow, does Beck at #1 and Pulp at #10 really represent, any longer, a true consensus of American rock critics? I doubt it...The result is a poll that's entirely predictable: I told Schumacher-Rasmussen weeks ago that Beck would win; I would not have predicted that Pulp would muster enough support to make the Top Ten but that's because it's hard to imagine the degree to which weenie critics remain devoted to their Anglophilia, no matter how many bullets Britpop shoots into its own brain.

This is at http://www.addict.com/html/lofi/Columns/American_Grandstand/303/index.html -- go to archive.org for the full text.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

dave marsh calling someone a weenie critic redefines pot kettle black (easily my fave yhf track btw)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

Why are you talking about Pulp when you could be talking about Relaxed Muscle?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

i love relaxed muscle

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 22:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Cocker was at our last gig and it made me proud.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 22:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

That Dave Marsh quote reminds me of another one of his chestnuts that Michael quoted here -- Dave Marsh on the Smiths, circa '84: "You can take all those sad cafe ballads, and I'll take [Lionel Richie's] 'Penny Lover.' Meet you on the corner of the centuries, and we'll see which one has lasted."

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

That quote is CLASSIC.
p.s. Pulp still rule.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

I would wager that Lionel Richie gets more plays on the radio in 2004 than the Smiths. I'm not sure he'd win a 'Penny Lover' vs. all the Smiths songs fight though. I don't know what point I'm trying to make here. I don't really like Lionel Richie.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

-- El Diablo Robotico (nicolew1...) (webmail), March 2nd, 2004 5:19 PM. (Nicole) (link)
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OMG

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

rock critics make me cry

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

59 Lyndhurst Grove!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think dave marsh thinks he has to safeguard The Rock from too much eurofag influence.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

i actually like dave marsh, but he's got a starship troopers-sized bug up his ass on stuff like this.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Despite most of us having believed the contrary for a couple of years, Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker has assured fans the band will return. He said: "We will be back with fresh material once we have finished working on solo projects" - which include the soundtrack to Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire.
Cocker added: "I've been doing Pulp since I was 15 years old and I'm now a 41-year-old man. Even though we've never released that many records I was always doing it and I just thought, 'I'll try summat else."

"I've been writing some songs. When I've got enough ones that I think are fit for human consumption then I'll try and decide what to do with them."

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

There was some weird rumor they'd play Coachella but that turned out to be folly...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah ditto the cocteaus.

the PULP dvd is a-mazing. truly a How To...
for pop bands making a dvd.

― piscesboy, Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

FANTASTIC!
rare white room footage of MONDAY MORNING with *completely* different words!

why won't the search function bring up the more recent PULP threads?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfYsoBQ7BLo

― pisces, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Someone needs to cast Cillian Murphy in a Pulp biopic asap based on that "Monday Morning" video.

― Simon H., Monday, 5 November 2007 03:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

so, US tour includes NYC (Radio City)

http://www.pulppeople.com/

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Right?? I revived another thread this morning and have been refreshing ILX to see who wants to talk about that! Trying to weigh the odds of them adding a Toronto show or me dropping $400+ on airfare and hotel (if I can even GET a ticket to this..) ....Sigh.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Saw em in the '90s, may try Music Hall b.o. on Friday... bcz common people don't pay Ticketmaster.

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw them in the 90s too.. doing the Pulp poll really rekindled my love affair last year and they're back in my top rotation nowadays. Plus who knows, maybe ENBB will split hotel costs with me? :D

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm definitely going to try to get tickets to the show in nyc, and talking about maybe going to see them in spain!

― bene_gesserit, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw this earlier and have basically been freaking out ever since. I have never seen them! There is no way I'm not going to that NY show. Tickets go on sale Friday, right?

Lex - we should totally do that.

― ENBB, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, friday at 10 am. i bet it's going to sell out so fast!

― bene_gesserit, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know. I am nervous about not getting tickets. AHHHHH! So exciting.

― ENBB, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hate that it's on a Wednesday. Guys, I don't want a vacation in New York on a Wednesday! Eeeee. E!!! I will have to crunch some numbers and figure out if I can do this. E - what's your job like in terms of being around for a 10AM sale? BRB, signing up for radio city mailing list in hopes there might be a presale.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

What'll the cheapest seat in the house be, $35? Any fee on top of that and I'm out.

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

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