Defend the Indefensible: "Reality Bites"

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oh god doom generation NO

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

Doom Generation was a total gas until that death scene at the end. or at least there was a lot of naked Rose McGowan stuff.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

i have a high tolerance for filmed garbage but this is a bridge too far

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

Has there been a Reality Bites vs Empire Records fite yet?

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

I'm waiting for strongo's review of MXP.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

Rose McGowan's tits could only obscure her lack of talent to a certain point.

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

If we're going to go fully mid-nineties, Alicia Silverstone and Clueless is our destination.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't seen Doom Generation, but it has Dustin Nguyen in it from 21 Jump Street, so there's some kind of defense.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

Clueless was great. Besides, there's an enormous gap between consciously "generation defining" movies with artificial deepness and angst, and Jane Austen with it's-funny-in-LA conceit.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i wont hear any ill words spoken against clueless

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

Ethan Hawke kisses really poorly onscreen. That is my biggest gripe about Reality Bites.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

Clueless is dandy, miles above everything else mentioned here.

Empire Records is bullllshit.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

This has reminded me that Ethan Hawke was almost Faramir in Lord of the Rings, and Uma almost Eowyn. We all dodged a bullet there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

I loved Ethan Embry's character in Empire Records, so I can't hate it. Indifferent aside from that.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

"Come anticipate Kill The Witch-King (vol 1 of 3) with me!"

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, so she wouldn't be in vol 1, though. Whatever.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

Joe: Why don't you hold these up to your chest, go over to the wall; and let them take some photographs of you?

Warren: Why don't you shove them up your ass?

Lucas: Because that would hurt a lot, Warren.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not indifferent now, I'm loving the movie. I forgot that line.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago) link

The great thing about the Ethan Hawke Hamlet was that its depiction of Hamlet as annoying artsy goatee dude was totally OTM.

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

wait wait 'kicking and screaming' needs to be brought in here

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

Kicking and Screaming - classic or dud?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

I think I was busy watching the mid-90s indie Pulp Fiction knockoffs when everyone else was watching the mid-90s indie generation wanks. I'm not sure which of us wins.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

'love and a .45', anyone?

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

I think we are all big losers
xp

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

Wow love and a 45 was horrible

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

first love last rites

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago) link

God, Love & a .45 -- Peter Fonda was in that, though, wasn't he? I'm not sure if that goes in the + or - column.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago) link

Tep, you mean like Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

Exactly, and -- oh my God. I just clicked on imdb to see if Killing Zoe came out before or after Pulp Fiction, and Julie Delpy being in it reminded me of Ethan Hawke's worst offense: Before Sunrise. And they're making a sequel, Before Sunset.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

He looked like a bad kisser in that movie too.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

its depiction of Hamlet as annoying artsy goatee dude was totally OTM.

Agreed!

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

To be fair, I don't know if anyone can kiss Julie Delpy well.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, Hamlet was totally one of those annoying art-wankers.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

Which makes it rather delightful when annoying art-wankers start quoting his lines in public places.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

I liked Before Sunrise! Okay, I haven't seen it since it came out, when I was 16, but I'm tempted to say it's my favorite Linklater film.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

like, a theater? xpost

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

Running through the titles mentioned:

Richard Linklater is obviously a genius - he's managed to create two great movies (Before Sunrise and Tape) starring Ethan Hawke. That's a miracle.

Empire Records is good - it doesn't take itself seriously at all, how can you compare it to Reality Bites. And ER has Liv Tyler stripping to Throwing Muses, who can argue with that. Clueless is just great all the way around.

Doom Generation makes Reality Bites look like Citizen Kane for fuck's sake. Kicking and Screaming is terrible, Love and a .45 is bad in every way.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I was gonna say; I'm no great Hawke fan but goddamn he was great in Tape. Played the asshole really well.

― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

"Played"

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

I loved the lad mag headline from a couple of months ago - a big photo of Uma and "Would you cheat on this woman?"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

His interviews are great fun, when he tries to put distance between himself and every other young actor. He makes some comment about Ben Affleck and money roles every time - even in the last Biskind book.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

We've made a hundred posts without discussing Ash Wednesday

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

With good reason.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

From what I've heard, his first novel was even worse.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

You know, Hollywood actors get a lot of shit, but most of them are good at what they do. Ethan Hawke is one of the few that actually can't act.

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

You mean you didn't buy him as a tuff LA cop wanting to work the drug squad? (Hawke's PCP scenes were great.)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

Haha no i didn't

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

But I don't even buy him when he's playing himself

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

Like, even when he's playing annoying artsy goatee dude Troy Dyer, I think "here's an annoying artsy goateed actor playing an artsy goateed dude"

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

OK, I haven't seen this but I caught about 30 minutes on TV. I didn't stay because I really had to go work on my thesis but it seemed like totally classic Couplandesque 90s pretension with a solid pathetic-guy unrequited love thing being set up. I liked all the hip pomo TV stuff and the way that Winona Ryder and Ben Stiller got busy to Peter Frampton. I wanted to rent it sometime to see the whole thing. Actually I'd probably just watch anything with Winona Ryder. Do they ever blast REM in the movie? I hope so.

I enjoyed Love and a 45 at the time too.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 04:13 (twenty years ago) link

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