HÜSKER PÖLL: Warehouse - Songs and Stories

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This album weirdly presages not just (aspects of) shoe gaze, but also the all-treble sound of a lot of '90s Brit rock.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

That section *does* sound a lot like parts of Isn't Anything. I listened to Warehouse a lot right when it came out and very little since. Spot's production never bothered me, but these interesting bits wash out on the late records. I only tenuously heard a HU-MBV connection by the time the time MBV came on my radar a year after HD was kaput. If Isn't Anything pulls a lot from Husker Du sonics, it also lets go of traditional Beatles/Buzzcocks song conventions, which Mould and Hart kept emphasizing more and more. Like, "Feed Me with Your Kiss" is easy to imagine as a late Du track, with the storm of fuzz and drawled vocals, but what sets it free is the conceptual bit with the incrementing count of blam-blam-blams. "From the Gut" Huskers might have done something like that, but not the final stage of the band.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

I always thought this captured something of shoe gaze:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzzP29fw930

fwiw "Psychocandy" came out two months later.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

What other art-rock has a similar feel or plays in a similar space?

Maybe some of the songs with layered guitar segments on third and fourth Camper Van Beethoven albums?

timellison, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

(The self-titled one and Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart)

timellison, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Very overdue, but thanks for all your replies (esp. bendy, Josh, tim). I realized in retrospect that Bob came back to this proto-shoegaze sound for Sugar (post-shoegaze?) which is kinda awkward.... yet I think the moments on the Sugar records that get psych-gaze are not sloppy enough for me to love, which is why I keep coming back to "No Reservations".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ok hold on a second!

From a Kevin Shields interview on how he created the MBV "glide-guitar" sound:

So I'd been playing the song 'Slow', and previously I'd been using this reverse reverb which I'd read about in a Bob Mould interview

https://thequietus.com/articles/08745-kevin-shields-interview-mbv-my-bloody-valentine

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:15 (three years ago) link

lol, Josh in Chicago from 4 years ago upthread:

Apparently Mould was also doing proto MBV stuff (slowing guitars down, blending them) pretty early, which maybe in those days accounted for his stun guitar sound. I know Shields has cited a Mould interview for giving him the idea of using reverse reverb. Billy Corgan cites Mould, too.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 8, 2016 7:59 AM (four years ago)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

I seem to remember reading in Tape Op or somewhere that it was a rackmount fx unit, Alesis Midiverb II that had a short reverse reverb setting that inspired the glide guitar sound.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

Any deep Husker fans know of any earlier reverse reverb examples prior to "No Reservations"?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

And what the hell is "stun guitar" anyway? The only other place I've seen it referenced is on Blue Oyster Cult album credits.

henry s, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

There's a guitar part during the intro to Eiffel Tower High that sounds a bit reverse reverbish

this is my clean tone (NickB), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Also Don't Know Yet off Flip Your Wig has a lot of backwards guitar but whether or not that's rev reverb I don't know. They obv played the tape backwards for the cymbals though

this is my clean tone (NickB), Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link


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