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Yeah, I am in the camp that expected to hate this more than Garden State and Little Miss Sunshine combined, so I should hardly be surprised I didn't.

Eric H., Monday, 31 December 2007 15:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh i definitely liked it more than garden state and little miss sunshine

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 16:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

also michael cera was very good and more of a presence than i expected after jaymc's comments upthread

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 16:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah I would watch this again whereas GS & LMS not so much. Not that I necessarily hated the other two, just, you know... whatever.

will, Monday, 31 December 2007 16:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

The cutesy-folksy-Wes Andersony soundtrack = bleccch

Joe, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

Watching it a second time I realized ... the last entire 15 minutes of the movie is one big montage set to those shitty songs. There are, like, five in a row.

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

If you watch it a third time, you'll realize that the entire 90 minutes is one long montage of moldy peaches.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

after pro-deregulation corporatism diguised as satire thank u for smoking and pro-life disguised as indie flick juno what right wing position will jason reitman make hip in his next movie?

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink


"i have to tell you something... the surge is working!"

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

pro-life disguised as indie flick

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

citizen ruth was not pro-life

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:58 (6 years ago) Permalink


"all it takes is tamper-proof id cards"

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

citizen ruth was not pro-life

Or pro-choice.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

or pro-abortion

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

(to coin a phrase)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:08 (6 years ago) Permalink


colonia decuma corrigo... it's latin for "estate tax reform"

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

There are, like, five in a row.

Are "those shitty songs" all by the Moldy Peaches? cuz they're one of the few bands of the last 10 years worth loving.

Then again, I can't tell "Nasty" from all those interchangeable Prince proteges' hits.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Janet's "Nasty" or Vanity 6's "Vanity"?

The Velvets' "I'm Sticking With You" is in there somewhere, sounding arch and coy in this company.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Moldy Peaches and Spielberg. You pick the weirdest shit to love.

milo z, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hope they score his Lincoln movie

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, I'd assumed the songs were all Kimya Dawson. Are some of them Moldy Peaches? (Not a genre connoisseur obv.)

I dunno, if "pro-life" = "opposed to abortion being legal," I'm not sure the movie takes this stance per se.

Sundar, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

citizen ruth was not pro-life

Or pro-choice.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, January 7, 2008 6:07 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

uh?

it really is.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film

thank you for smoking pissed me off more than any movie ive seen maybe ever, and took a similar aw-shucks stance - 'yeah smoking kills but itd be pretty gay to try and regulate it!'

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's what you get making a movie based on a Christopher Buckley novel.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

uh?

it really is.

The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.

Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

"i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film"

I don't think the movie treats it as non-viable option (in fact, in contrast to Knocked Up it's ACTUALLY brought up as an option.) The one actual pro-life person in the movie is portrayed as being totally ridiculous. Of course, the Planned Parenthood people are treated as being pretty doofus-y too which is kind of sad.

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.

i think it's too "equal opportunities" in its satire, but it's def pro-choice.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan."

Good advice for everyone.

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course. Calls to mind the Clinton figleaf "SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE" -- like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's just the choice Ruth makes at the end has nothing to do with whether or not to have her baby.

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

If you like the music in Juno, Morbs, you should double-time it to a screening of Once.

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think the movie pretty clearly doesnt think it's a good idea for ruth to have the baby, they just sidestep it by having her miscarry

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

"like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare"

You are kidding, right? You don't think that trying to provide adequate family planning/birth control isn't trying to make it rare?

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

and while the pro-choice wiccan lesbians are pretty goofy they arent as outright repugnant as the pro-lifers

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

depends how you feel about wiccan lesbos.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

i dunno obviously youre getting close to bullshit south park style 'fair-minded' satire with that but if the pro-choicers were more saintly it wouldve been dismissable propaganda

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course."

I don't think that the movie's view of Planned Parenthood or the single pro-life girl is really intelligent enough to be called a crit anyway, but my experience with pro-lifers who stand outside of clinics is that they ARE wingbats while most people I've known who worked at those clinics were pretty normal so yeah I'd say it was a pretty lame "equal opportunity criticism" or whatever.

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

xp: I do, Alex, and Dems, in the main, aren't doing enough for it.

Eric, given yr musical predilections I don't expect you to distinguish the Moldy Peaches from The Frames.

(however, I'm wary of Juno bcz I could easily be turned off by the Moldys' music being used as a crutch)

Apparently Ellen Page is behind the quantity of MPs on the soundtrack:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/47444-the-moldy-peaches-reunite-for-ijunoi-premiere

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Notice me not taking the bait, Morbs?

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

"xp: I do, Alex, and Dems, in the main, aren't doing enough for it."

At what level? Nationally? State? Locally?

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes, perhaps, sure

I know you're better than that, E.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

maybe ppl who actually have had to deal with abortion clinics should stick to discussing this and leave the opinions of bitchy old maid paultard queens out of it

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh haha OK Kimya Dawson is in the Moldy Peaches.

Sundar, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ouch.

"Enough" is tough standard. I certainly agree they could do more probably at all three levels. But no doubt in my mind that Dems at all levels are trying a lot harder than Republicans to make it "rare".

Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

maybe you should give me yr address, ethan, so you can see how bitchy I can get.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

maybe you should give me yr address, ethan, so you can see how bitchy I can get.

-- Dr Morbius, Monday, January 7, 2008 6:47 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Scared? Kind of excited, too? All mixed up?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

If memory serves, one of the songs has a lyric that went a little something like this: "I am the church and you are my steeple / We sure are cute for two ugly people."

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah! delightful!

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Eric, I think (OK, have the slimmest of hopes) you'd like "Steak for Chicken."

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think I'll take "who's that eating that nasty food."

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:56 (6 years ago) Permalink


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