Johnny Depp: Cool or Fool?

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Johnny Depp is a fool how sometimes lands in the control of a director capable of turning working with this foolness.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know who you are anymore, Tracer.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Nightmare of Ecstacy is the greatest title. Hurray for oral histories.

How can you say that Ed Wood's "will" was lost in the role Tracer? That performance was all will!

But I thought Sean Penn was great in Sweet and Lowdown. I don't think that the depiction of a certain particular kind of humanity is neccessary for a movie; naturalistic acting is of course just as much of a style as Depp's mannered approach.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

taste sensation!

Not enough people up in here are talking about his performance in Fear and Loathing which I must say was totally righteous and wonderful (as someone who's witnessed The Hunter Thompson Show firsthand). It probably helps that he actually, y'know, knows Hunter Thompson and has been around him and stuff. This is not an advantage he had making Sleepy Hollow.

Plus he's one of the only rock-stars-in-a-band where the band wasn't half-bad (although it helped that 2 of the 4 members came from Butthole Surfers).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

(not to say there's a Hunter Thompson Show...more that the man is a show, a spectacle to behold, 24-7)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

This is as good a time as any to also point out that Andrew Farrell has suggested that the NYC get togethers be renamed "F&LNYC" instead of "FAPNYC".

not to be a prick but I could've sworn this was my idea.

Johnny Depp is an excellent actor. He's not my favorite though. My favorite actor is R2-D2.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

Now I want to watch Plan 9 and cannot because I am aus werk and then must go to class. SUCKS TO BE ME. "Death is even more of a shock when it comes suddenly without warning!" HAHAHAHA best movie quote ever. I really kind of wish I liked that movie ironically but I really don't. I honestly, genuinely think that Plan 9 From Outer Space is my favorite movie ever and that this is why I love Ed Wood so astronomically.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

It's a glory unto the heavens.

"Can your HEART withstand the shocking facts about...GRAVE ROBBERS FROM OUTER SPACE?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

Ed Wood was a laugh, though I admit it took me a while to get into the plot.

Still haven't seen From Hell yet, though....

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:36 (twenty years ago) link

No, your idea, Tom, was that you were some kind of incarnation of Hunter S. Thompson. Andrew then ran with it. Or he stole your idea in a bizarre identity theft worthy of a Johnny Depp film! Awesome!

Ned: Can you prove that it DIDN'T happen?!

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

I tried watching that movie (From Hell) but its visual style made my brain process it as a Canadian TV show and I fell asleep.

(x-post)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

See, the thing about Johnny Depp is that he seems to calculatedly cool, which is, of course, only cool if you're 12 yrs old.
He hangs out with HST, he paid too many thousands of dollars for Kerouac's raincoat, he let Brando feel him up in an elevator for $12 and half a box of fig newtons. Y-A-W-N.

I feel asleep in From Hell too (at home).

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

Larry King made out with Brando on TV just because Brando asked him to, no fig newtons involved. You can't really blame Depp for that indiscretion; Brando makes everyone his bitch.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

naturalistic acting is of course just as much of a style as Depp's mannered approach

I agree, but I prefer it because I think it produces more open-ended, less determined results.

I'll admit I find Depp fascinating, because of his narcissism, which he never seems comfortable with. He goes out of his face to efface "himself" (whatever that is; if you watch an interview with him he's lost in his own haze to the point of being bad-mannered). He loads up on tics and extraordinary makeup, it's like self-flagellation. Thats why DiCaprio will never be Depp: DiCaprio is totally at ease with his own self-regard.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

Brad Pitt kind of does the same thing on a regular basis, except for when he decides to be lame and does movies like Meet Joe Black.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

Depp is a consistently entertaining, and as far as I know well aware that his looks and his ambition clash. Keanu Reeves so has pictures of him all over his bedroom.

Actually, Ally, I think I got the Tom=HST, and I certainly didn't come up with F&LNYC. It's an easy mistake to make, a simple way to tell the difference is

― No Carrier Signal (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

Well maybe this is Fight Club and you don't actually exist outside of TOm's mind, did you think of this Mr. Farrell?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, I'M TOM'S Tyler? Jesus.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

(ok, that's unlikely, you're right, and as such I'm wrong. You can both kill me with guns next you see me)

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

Every man thinks he's Tyler. Every man is actually Jack. As long as every man gets Helena Bonham-Carter, everything works out alright.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think so!

― Lars (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link

(I hope you're still talking "Fight Club" and haven't switched to "Planet Of The Apes".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

I don't want to share Helena Bonham-Carter with every other man on the Planet, not least because she is actually Johnny Depp and I'm sorry, the man is icky.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, am I Helena Bonham Carter in this equation? Fuck off with that, we're going to have to pick another movie.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563897156.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

ANDREW YOU JUST BECAME MY HERO

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

(I was actually looking for http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563892618.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg , but Google knows best)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

The other one looks more accurate.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, and you don't end up looking like a transvestite (Millar is clearly wondering what's up with that).

The photo is from when we got 40s and went to the park. Because that definitely happened.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

Transsexual. That's the one I meant.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

If by "park" you mean "my house" then yes it did!

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

Where's Rod Stewart?

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

Bottom left of the second picture.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

He can still pull, though.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

Are we still talking about Johnny Depp?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Because I don't think I've seen this movie.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Right at the minute we're providing fuel for Has ILE become too pally?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

Well can we talk about The Astronaut's Wife or Nick of Time then?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

(though there is a Preacher movie being made, and some people have views)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

James Marsden, man. James Marsden. What are they thinking?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

They were thinking "We can't cast Keanu, he's already signed on to play John Constantine".

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

Shut up. Really?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

The IMDB doesn't lie (portions of this sentence may be a lie).

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808403552

The director for Preacher appears to be Rachel Talalay. Eek.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

It's like all my movie dreams are coming true at once except I'm not in any of these movies.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

i saw depp on letterman or something last week and his voice for the appearance was kind of bewildering. he doesn't really talk like that, does he? surely it can't be natural. and if unnatural then dud.

― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah people should be themselves on talk shows.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

I sort of really like him, but there is something really dorky about him, too. Johnny Depp reminds me of quite a few people I've known over the years—except that they were in their early 20's. This guy is just too old to say some of the dorky things he says in interviews.

― Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

The coolest thing was changing his tattoo:
Winona ForN
Winona For^ever

― Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

actually I think he changed it to "Wino Forever."

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

No, he put that on his other arm.

― Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

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