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5 reasons why hilary should be worried

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The calendar is her enemy. Now that more than half the states have weighed in, there is a fairly predictable formula for determining who is most likely to win the upcoming contests.

In caucus states, Obama’s organizational strength shines: He has won seven of eight. Up next are three more caucus states, Washington, Nebraska and Maine.

Obama also runs tremendously well in states with large African-American populations, another promising sign since next Tuesday’s three primaries are in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia — all of which have significant percentages of black voters.

Then comes another caucus state, Hawaii, where Obama is viewed as a native son.

The bottom line is that it figures to be another month before Clinton hits a stretch of states — places like Ohio and Pennsylvania — where she will be strongly favored to win.

So it couldn’t be any clearer as to why the supposedly inevitable candidacy is anything but — even when she’s supposedly winning.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

btw that link's been posted twice already

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

So, Hils not broke after all article had this innit:

"One longtime Democratic consultant not affiliated with any campaign wondered if perhaps the whole thing wasn't a big stunt to garner media attention and look like an "underdog."

- what'd you guys think?

BleepBot, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

seems plausible

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a hard time believing her campaign is broke. i'm sure they have less money than obama, but broke...c'mon

akm, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

HILLARY CLINTON: ESTABLISHMENT-APPROVED UNDERDOG.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess it probably caused her backers to give $$ .... but I think it sparked Obama's, too

dmr, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Hillary has issued a TOWN-HALL CHALLENGE to Obama to be set in Orono, ME this weekend.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Wrestling match?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought I hated Joe Klein, but.. Well I read it and thought, when the whole thing started I was arguing that the Obama campaign is about itself.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1710721,00.html
And yet there was something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism — "We are the ones we've been waiting for" — of the Super Tuesday speech and the recent turn of the Obama campaign. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It's different not because of me. It's different because of you." That is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: the campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause — other than an amorphous desire for change — the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is.

Also, this link is actually worth clicking.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/07/mitt-romney-epic-fail/

daria-g, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

ha holy shit nobody knew it was coming:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/crowd_stunned_as_romney_drops.php

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Joe Klein and daria didn't read the metapolitics link

gabbneb, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

To be fair, Daria, a lot of the HRC campaign -- until recently -- was about how inevitable her nomination was.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I have so many opportunities for this country

gabbneb, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

hillary swats obama across the nose with a lacy glove, demands satisfaction and pistols at dawn.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Come volunteer for the day and bring a friend! There will be phones, Hillary trivia, and door prizes! The Hill-Star who brings the most people with him/her and the Hill-Star who makes the most phone calls by the end of the day will both receive an autographed copy of The American Health Choices Plan, Hillary's plan for universal health care coverage.

gabbneb, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

loooool

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a lot of opportunities
If there aren't, you can make them
Make or break them

I've got the brains, you've got the looks
Let's make lots of money

daria-g, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

There will be . . . Hillary trivia

Thank goodness she won't be dangerously self-referential.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Romney supporters began to boo. Others shouted, "No!" At least one woman shouted, loudly, "Why?"

"And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," he said.

More crowd noise: "No!" and "Oh no"

"This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters... many of you right here in this room... have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming President. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America. This has never been about me."

The crowd: "Come on! No!"

Romney: "I feel I have to now stand aside for our party and our country."

"We love you Mitt," one woman yelled.

Romney received a standing ovation upon exiting. His supports filed out of the ballroom, fumbling for their cell phones. I saw one woman crying

Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Booo.... Scatterde for our party and our country
We love u mitt

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I do wonder if embittered Mitt groupies will boo McCain.

Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Every campaign does this kind of goofy shit to bring on volunteers, though. At least they're not handing out orange hats and setting up campgrounds :)

daria-g, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Can I just say that this is giving me massive giggletits:

"[...]This has never been about me."

The crowd: "Come on! No!"

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I do wonder if embittered Mitt groupies will boo McCain.

Word is his speech was received with half applause, half boos.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The part about some people surrendering to terror was a nice touch, Mittens

daria-g, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America.

but how does he feel about America?

akm, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Some calm and measured thoughts from the ever-reflective M. Malkin and her restrained, gentle commentators re: McCain's speech:

On February 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm, miker said:

Ok this really takes the whole enchilada. As long as Juan McPain has Juan Hernadez within arms reach of his campaign, I will not believe one single word from him about Amnesty. Heck he just said “I stand behind my position on illegal immigrants”, so why does anyone think he would change his mind?

Satan himself could be running against McPain and McPain STILL wouldn’t get my vote. NEVER EVER!

Etc. etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ha holy shit nobody knew it was coming:

yeah totally awesome watching it live and knowing that.

GET ONE BLACKBERRY

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Satan himself could be running against McPain and McPain STILL wouldn’t get my vote. NEVER EVER!

Mature, even for her.

Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG GLEN BECK IS ON CNN RITE NOW EXPLAINING THE "I CANT VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE I'M AN ALCOHOLIC" RHETORIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

YOU CANT KEEP ENABLING SOMEONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM!

YOU HAVE TO LET THEM COLLAPSE ON THEMSELVES!

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Mature, even for her.

That was actually one of the comments but I suspect she thought the same.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

so the Republican Party is like sweet, sweet liquor? (Southern Comfort?)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

NO MCCAIN IS THE BOOZE

THE PARTY HAS A PROBLEM

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

A disease, then?

daria-g, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

SINGLE MALT MCCAIN, AGED 70 YEARS

dmr, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

can we get a .jpg of McCain on some malt liquor plz

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

a party, perverted

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

no no, the McCain booze is aged in a damp cellar for 5 & 1/2 years

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, that's not funny

Mr. Que, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

yikes

xp

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a little funny. Way more grim, but still a little funny.

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

"no no, the McCain booze is aged in a damp cellar for 5 & 1/2 years"

not funny at all

Bill Magill, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, but that is a little funny.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/images/707.jpg

gabbneb, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I CANT VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE I'M AN ALCOHOLIC

What's this about?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i just explained upthread

it lead to jokes about mccain being a brand of booze

gr8080, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i guess i went there. pretty tasteless of me, sorry! lol xxp

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link


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