― paige, Saturday, 14 June 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
have you actually read dan's post?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 14 June 2003 11:29 (twenty years ago) link
Point me at a song.
They do take risks, just not as much music wise as it is timing and tempo.
Clearly I'm not going to take your word for anything because I heard their first two albums and was not impressed enough to pursue them any further, largely because of the reasons I listed.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 14 June 2003 12:18 (twenty years ago) link
Dan, no lie, that's a beautiful piece of criticism right there.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 14 June 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 14 June 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Saturday, 14 June 2003 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
― allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:01 (twenty years ago) link
Should it require more than a few CDs and singles to form an opinion of this band? If their readily available material (presumably the music the band felt most satisfied with to represent them) fails to create a favorable impression, why do you have such a seemingly damn hard time fathoming how -- for even a nanosecond -- that you may actually indeed be mistaken in your assertion that the DMB's music is anything other than bog-fucking-standard?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:20 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link
If you're not going to stand by statements, might I suggest you reconsider making them in the first place. What else have we to go on other than your own words in this debate?
At the very least, I think we can all safely, heartily and cheerily agree that Linkin Park suck from a big, greasy bag of cock, right?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link
I don't appreciate the amplification of every statement I make
Understood, but I think this is happening because you're not answering a lot of specific questions in turn. Dan, for instance, has brought up a lot that you're not apparently dealing with. Saying that you're not being understood or that you're being treated too harshly when you're not willing to engage further with what's asked is a bit of a problem -- especially if you're so single-mindedly focused on getting US to engage further with a band you like. It goes both ways.
Criticising the band for technical, lyrical, or any other intangible factors when you aren't entirely informed is a totally different animal
If people are getting annoyed with the band BECAUSE of something technical, lyrical, etc. and say so, what more do you want? It can't be intangible if it is there and they're pointing to it.
I'm not fond of a lot of bands, but if I haven't experienced them in their entirety then I do not pass jugement on them
If you aren't fond of a band you have passed a judgment. It may be a temporary one or may be one that you are wanting to note is something based on only a few things that you've heard, but it's still a judgment.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 14 June 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― J (Jay), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:15 (twenty years ago) link
Your mom's a wall.
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:22 (twenty years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
― allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link
Best comeback evah.
― J (Jay), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:52 (twenty years ago) link
I did not say that violins and woodwinds can never be in tune with each other. I sing with the Boston Symphony; I hear violins and woodwinds in tune on a regular basis. What I said was that their violin player's timbre (which more often than not sounds like Irish fiddle) doesn't match well with the saxophone. It's a "unique" sound that never really rings, gels or clicks.
I'd also like to note that you STILL haven't pointed me at any specific songs.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 15 June 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:28 (twenty years ago) link
― The Atomic Rooster, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link
I said that Dave Matthews Band rarely plays in tune. I didn't say it was impossible to tune woodwinds. And really, it's only the songs where they really feature the fiddle and horns playing together that it really grates on my ears.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:30 (twenty years ago) link
The name comes from the name of a song, One Sweet World, performed by the Dave Matthews Band (who they?).
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Ben_Jerrys_One_Sweet_Whirled__Review_5314913
― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:35 (twenty years ago) link
This may be the best reply I've ever gotten.
― oops (Oops), Monday, 16 June 2003 06:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link