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well it's good by my lapsed collector standards...the corners all look pretty sharp, maybe a couple are just very slightly soft? It doesn't look fresh out of the pack I guess but neither are there any flaws that I can detect. Same with the Aaron card.

I'll report back!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

I'm surprised looking some of these rookie cards up—Ryan, Palmer, Kaline, Brett mini, Morgan (signed) among others—that the Rickey, which is def mint, evidently goes for a lot more that those older cards

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

I could never quite figure out why certain rookie cards were valuable but others weren't. Not at the extremes--Mantle, Seaver, etc.--and I can even understand why PED rookie cards took a hit. But Pedro Martinez or Randy Johnson; you can get at least one of their rookie cards very cheap (under $5). It might not be the card to have--once there were numerous companies, one card would always end up being the most valuable--but that still seems comparatively low next to lesser players worth more.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

my guess is the PED aspect just depreciated demand for those players.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

@Topps 2009 Bowman Chrome Superfractor @MikeTrout graded @beckett_grading 9.5 sells for $3.93 million at goldin auctions “ goldin elite” tonight. Session 2 ends Sunday night at 10pm ...highest priced ever for ANY trading card.. pic.twitter.com/axV4sXjMcC

— Goldin Auctions (@GoldinAuctions) August 23, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

Saw that yesterday. Personally, I find refractor cards garish and ugly, although that one's not too bad.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

I didn't know you could do this, buy shares in sports cards like they're stocks:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/investing/baseball-cards-markets/index.html

Very tempting to a self-deluded blowhard like me who has a gift for picking out HOF'ers a decade out. I have dozens of Juan Gonzalez and Albert Belle cards to prove it.

clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

Hey, Belle should have made the Hall!

The amount of time I spent as a kid searching my grandparents' house for tobacco cards...

Sam Weller, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

He was headed there, although I'm guessing he would have been stopped by PED allegations eventually. Even without PEDs, his career just ended too soon--didn't reach either 400 HR or 2,000 hits. He was awesome for a few years, though, and should have won the MVP in 1995.

clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

No thread for basketball cards...Wanted to buy a box for my friend's eight-year-old son; preferably something discounted from the '90s, the era when they were over-producing everything. Forget it. A kid that age has about the same chance of starting a card collection as a young married couple does of buying a house.

clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:34 (two years ago) link

i used to have a karl malone rookie. i sold it for 60 bucks when i needed money for weed.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link

plant that weed in the ground and grow some more, and the next 2 ounces will be free

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

thank you based karl 🙏

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

lol

so wait 90s cards are still dumb cheap right? i sold off mine for peanuts a few years ago. The new ones are pricey?

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link

I looked around for a '90s set online--an overproduced Hoops set, something like that--and they were all around $150 a box. As far as new cards go, here's a Toronto store I looked at:

https://totalsportcards.com/collections/sports-cards-basketball-cards

Insane. (Your rookie card, Karl, seems to be selling for $500-1000 on eBay, depending upon shape/grading.)

clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

It's impossible to get sports cards right now we tried to add them as a product line at work but can't get enough stock to bother. Very weird boom because the individuals usually aren't worth much, like 1993 all over again it's based on a set being laced with 5 signed Mike Trout holographic cards. The only difference is how they've wised up on making them actual rarities.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link

and they're all difficult to sell unless graded and the major grading houses for comics and cards have a 12+ month backlog

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link

ffs this is a lot of weed

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-FLEER-68-Karl-Malone-Rookie-RC-BGS-9-5/264648683368

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link

mine was probably more like a 7 though, it was just loose.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

a loosie, if you will

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

I saw one that was supposed to be a 9 and selling for ~$800. (I always view these prices as purely hypothetical, meant for the one person insane--or rich--enough to pay what they're asking. Surely a lot of these get resposted eventually at a drastically reduced price?)

clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link

To reiterate my original point, though, this is No Country for 8-Year-Old Kids.

clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-Karl-Malone-Rookie-RC-68-PSA-9-Mint-/353802025829?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Going up from there makes them increasingly rare but a 9.5 or 9.8 is probably more like $1500 as a realistic selling price.

Also I think the graders are just making shit up at that point. Like 1 out of 100 9s gets a bump just so some exist.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

It's wild that '90s sealed crap is going for $$$ these days, although it seems like bulk loose cards from then are still relatively dirt cheap? Occasionally I'll see a Facebook marketplace ad with "1000 Cards for $30" or something.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link

totally picked through, i’m assuming.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

(xpost) I've left it too late, but that's probably what I should have got him. I would hope they'd be in good shape, with at least the occasional star mid-career.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link

XP No doubt. I imagine these are the same people I'd see at antique/collectable shows in the before times with big vending bins of '80s-'90s commons for cheap.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

It's wild that '90s sealed crap is going for $$$ these days, although it seems like bulk loose cards from then are still relatively dirt cheap?

Fun lottery ticket. Maybe your $200 purchase pulls a $3000 9.8 rookie card. If not you still got to open packs of cards and remember some guys.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

Makes sense. Although the thought that something from say, overprint Kings Pro Set or Score* being ridiculously valuable is hmmmm to me.

*Aside from their early stuff, and whatever later limited things they had.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

Still think the Pro Set saga would make a great 30 For 30.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link

The National Sports Collectors Convention was in Houston in '94, so I went on multiple days. Pro Set, despite literally being on the cusp of going under, had a huge corporate display, and in lieu of printing up exclusive freebies for the event (as was becoming the style at the time), they just had employees sitting at tables with loads of open wax boxes, tearing open packs and handing anyone who asked 30 loose cards.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

Found an acceptable substitute for $15: a mini Funko Pop! Michael Jordan.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

(And ordered a mini Julius Erving for myself!)

clemenza, Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link

i knew kids who used to steam open the wax wrappers from card packs, pick out the good cards, replace with commons, and reseal the packs. we sure these ebay sellers aren’t doing that?

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

If you're going to pay big bucks you want the box with intact shrinkwrap with the manufacturer logo printed on it. My memories of my parents working card shows in the early-mid '90s are hazy but the Upper Decks and higher tiers of cards had unique shrinkwrap IIRC.

Magic is the worst about this. Early packs are real easy to sort without even opening.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

I think it was easy to reseal vinyl records.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link

Iirc, foil and plastic packs were harder to reseal as well.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

i have an entire topps 1987 baseball set in absolute mint condition -- the only baseball cards i ever bought. i mean i even resisted putting tony pena in my wallet ffs

can i buy a house with this yet?

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link

purchased out of the back ads of the sporting news even! good god i'm old

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link

that's a beautiful set imo. bonds rookie iirc!

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 09:29 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Topps lives on, kind of.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fanatics-baseball-cards-topps-11641261997

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Just uncovered a box of plastic protect sleeved cards from my childhood in our storage locker. This bundle is almost all early '90s inserts/chase cards with a handful of regular series exceptions (including three of the Upper Deck Michael Jordan baseball rookie card).

An amusing oddity are a few cards from a giveaway series from Church's Chicken, which weren't completely licensed, so the team logos were airbrushed off--I had totally forgotten that was a thing then.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 April 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

Adding to the peak '90s of it all, that Church's set had REFRACTOR CHASE CARDS--I've got multiples of the Joe Carter one.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 April 2022 01:55 (two years ago) link

what do you want for the joe carter?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 2 April 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

If the goose were clutching a bat with "fuckface" written on it, maybe, but I think I'll pass.

clemenza, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/OfVoZo0.png

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

Hell yeah

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 December 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

Not a card, but I bought one of these for $4 in Dollarama today:

https://www.fairshop.ca/new/collectibles-c-1/zack-greinke-21-arizona-diamondbacks-player-replica-mlb-players-choice-p-64

(If you look down below, you can still get a Roughned Odor for $10 before there's a run on them when he retires.)

clemenza, Thursday, 29 December 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

Starlin Castro!

I still want a Mike Richter starting lineup

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 December 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link


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