5 cards in those topps packs, hm. so a 1 in 5 chance that your mantle rookie card will be ruined by the stick of gum laying on it for 68 years?
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 May 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link
IIRC mantle was #1 in the set and so few of them exist in good condition BC kids would wrap rubber bands around their collections
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 9 May 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link
I thought so too, but it was #311--just looked at a checklist. (Andy Pafko was #1.) I wouldn't want that pack today, no...There are supposedly a few perfect Mantles out there.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidseideman/2018/04/29/forget-the-2-9-million-mickey-mantle-card-there-are-three-worth-10-million/#70a24a853a99
I'd happily settle for a Mays. (No Williams in the set.)
http://images.psacard.com/s3/cu-psa/cardfacts/1952-topps-261-willie-mays-mint-9-87181.jpg?h=1000&format=png&s.roundcorners=10
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
just a big strong yokel who could hit the curveball
insanity
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
I just dug out my cards, the ones I have in hard plastic, for the first time in maybe ten years.
I have a '54 Topps Hank Aaron rookie in excellent condition, and my heart just went into my throat seeing what it's going for on eBay. Three months' rent.
I just assumed there was this major depreciation in the last decade. I need to sell this card. Anyone have any tips?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
you guys I am freaking out
I just found another card that I had no idea was worth anything remotely near this—way more than the Aaron.
It makes me nervous. HOW DO I SELL THESE?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
Whoa!!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
I have no idea but that is awesome!!!!
I can't believe it.
I'm okay selling a record or whatever online but I don't trust myself to grade these out or trust them to the mail or whatever
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
for context I am living month to month and my lease has expired
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
Sell them on eBay? Or alternatively contact a card shop (if any of those still exist) or professional reseller (ditto) and solicit a bid privately?
― Mordy, Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
yeah I think so, I would happily give someone a commision to take them off my hands
looking at ebay it seems like the fall-off from M to EX/M is precipitious and makes all the difference, but both of these are in amazing shape, centered w/ good corners
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
yeah, i was going to say, if you're trying to sell them relatively quickly and without much hassle, i'm sure someone would be willing to do it all for you and take a decent cut. i'd be in the same boat as you - i would never want to make a call on the difference between M and EX/M and then make a bunch of money off of it, i'd be freaking out!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
That's great. (Very intrigued about the non-Aaron card.) I could put you in touch with someone I met through a card show a few years ago--I bought hundreds and hundreds of media guides from him. I trust he'd give you sound advice.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
still can’t find my yaz rookie after years of searching in my parents’ attic etc :/
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
i’m also v intrigued about the non-aaron card :)
xxp yes Clemenza that would be great, dm me!
so the other card is (to my eye) a near-mint Bench rookie...and I saw it selling for basically the down payment on a mortgage, which is probably an outlier but still
I do have a ton of other valuable rookie cards that I'd like to bundle off
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
I sent you some board e-mail, Hadrian.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
I have a phone number, Hadrian, where you can message my friend. Send me board e-mail, or if you go to my user profile and click on my site, you can get my regular e-mail address.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
terrific, thanks
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
Hope your Bench is as good as you say--you could really cash in on that one.
http://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/baseball-cards/1968-topps/reds-rookies-johnny-bench-ron-tompkins-247/31850
$33,000 for the 10 on there; the 9s run $2-3000, and even an 8 clears $1,000. (Dmitri Young owns one.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
well it's good by my lapsed collector standards...the corners all look pretty sharp, maybe a couple are just very slightly soft? It doesn't look fresh out of the pack I guess but neither are there any flaws that I can detect. Same with the Aaron card.
I'll report back!
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
I'm surprised looking some of these rookie cards up—Ryan, Palmer, Kaline, Brett mini, Morgan (signed) among others—that the Rickey, which is def mint, evidently goes for a lot more that those older cards
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
I could never quite figure out why certain rookie cards were valuable but others weren't. Not at the extremes--Mantle, Seaver, etc.--and I can even understand why PED rookie cards took a hit. But Pedro Martinez or Randy Johnson; you can get at least one of their rookie cards very cheap (under $5). It might not be the card to have--once there were numerous companies, one card would always end up being the most valuable--but that still seems comparatively low next to lesser players worth more.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 May 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
my guess is the PED aspect just depreciated demand for those players.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
@Topps 2009 Bowman Chrome Superfractor @MikeTrout graded @beckett_grading 9.5 sells for $3.93 million at goldin auctions “ goldin elite” tonight. Session 2 ends Sunday night at 10pm ...highest priced ever for ANY trading card.. pic.twitter.com/axV4sXjMcC— Goldin Auctions (@GoldinAuctions) August 23, 2020
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
Saw that yesterday. Personally, I find refractor cards garish and ugly, although that one's not too bad.
― clemenza, Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
I didn't know you could do this, buy shares in sports cards like they're stocks:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/investing/baseball-cards-markets/index.html
Very tempting to a self-deluded blowhard like me who has a gift for picking out HOF'ers a decade out. I have dozens of Juan Gonzalez and Albert Belle cards to prove it.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
Hey, Belle should have made the Hall!
The amount of time I spent as a kid searching my grandparents' house for tobacco cards...
― Sam Weller, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
He was headed there, although I'm guessing he would have been stopped by PED allegations eventually. Even without PEDs, his career just ended too soon--didn't reach either 400 HR or 2,000 hits. He was awesome for a few years, though, and should have won the MVP in 1995.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link
No thread for basketball cards...Wanted to buy a box for my friend's eight-year-old son; preferably something discounted from the '90s, the era when they were over-producing everything. Forget it. A kid that age has about the same chance of starting a card collection as a young married couple does of buying a house.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:34 (two years ago) link
i used to have a karl malone rookie. i sold it for 60 bucks when i needed money for weed.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link
plant that weed in the ground and grow some more, and the next 2 ounces will be free
― Karl Malone, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
thank you based karl 🙏
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
lolso wait 90s cards are still dumb cheap right? i sold off mine for peanuts a few years ago. The new ones are pricey?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
I looked around for a '90s set online--an overproduced Hoops set, something like that--and they were all around $150 a box. As far as new cards go, here's a Toronto store I looked at:
https://totalsportcards.com/collections/sports-cards-basketball-cards
Insane. (Your rookie card, Karl, seems to be selling for $500-1000 on eBay, depending upon shape/grading.)
― clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
It's impossible to get sports cards right now we tried to add them as a product line at work but can't get enough stock to bother. Very weird boom because the individuals usually aren't worth much, like 1993 all over again it's based on a set being laced with 5 signed Mike Trout holographic cards. The only difference is how they've wised up on making them actual rarities.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 December 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
and they're all difficult to sell unless graded and the major grading houses for comics and cards have a 12+ month backlog
ffs this is a lot of weed
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-FLEER-68-Karl-Malone-Rookie-RC-BGS-9-5/264648683368
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link
mine was probably more like a 7 though, it was just loose.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
a loosie, if you will
I saw one that was supposed to be a 9 and selling for ~$800. (I always view these prices as purely hypothetical, meant for the one person insane--or rich--enough to pay what they're asking. Surely a lot of these get resposted eventually at a drastically reduced price?)
― clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link
To reiterate my original point, though, this is No Country for 8-Year-Old Kids.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-Karl-Malone-Rookie-RC-68-PSA-9-Mint-/353802025829?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Going up from there makes them increasingly rare but a 9.5 or 9.8 is probably more like $1500 as a realistic selling price.
Also I think the graders are just making shit up at that point. Like 1 out of 100 9s gets a bump just so some exist.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link
It's wild that '90s sealed crap is going for $$$ these days, although it seems like bulk loose cards from then are still relatively dirt cheap? Occasionally I'll see a Facebook marketplace ad with "1000 Cards for $30" or something.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link
totally picked through, i’m assuming.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link
(xpost) I've left it too late, but that's probably what I should have got him. I would hope they'd be in good shape, with at least the occasional star mid-career.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
XP No doubt. I imagine these are the same people I'd see at antique/collectable shows in the before times with big vending bins of '80s-'90s commons for cheap.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link
It's wild that '90s sealed crap is going for $$$ these days, although it seems like bulk loose cards from then are still relatively dirt cheap?
Fun lottery ticket. Maybe your $200 purchase pulls a $3000 9.8 rookie card. If not you still got to open packs of cards and remember some guys.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link
Makes sense. Although the thought that something from say, overprint Kings Pro Set or Score* being ridiculously valuable is hmmmm to me.
*Aside from their early stuff, and whatever later limited things they had.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link