2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

"Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

?!???!?!?

Which country? Opponent Country?

Also, and in addition also, who he?

you guys no way are we winning in 2012 i am seeing dark clouds so worried ahhh

I think there is plenty to be bleak about in terms of the next four years in general. I also think I'd rather have someone in charge who acts with a modicum of restraint and forethought than not -- if the next presidential term is a poisoned chalice for whoever wins, then there's still something to be said for making a choice that holds some promise of ameliorating the effects.

For what it's worth that was half-joking in reference to Palin/Keyes '12

Clarity.

It was 'half-joking' because I think you're right: we're about to go through a tough four years, and it's gonna require an alignment of stars completely out of the president's control to keep the country above water. We'll have to wait and see, and the outcome of those events (and Obama's handling of them) is gonna determine the outcome of '12. FDR or Hoover etc.

Well, I'd say the fact that Obama's already said "Yeah, a lot of the planned program work is going to have to be put on hold" in re: bailout and all is a good sign. Naturally it's not going to be hyperpublicized but at least it's out there.

no way is it huckabee/palin. establishment types aint trustin

Hahah, some VERY necessary reading about what went down in Anchorage today:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/mccain-palin-rally-vs-obama-biden-rally-in-anchorage-the-blow-by-blow/

Ain't going to happen, I figure, but if somehow Alaska went for Obama, I would *laugh*...

“Gee, I miss you guys… I heard there were a few flakes today. I miss that weather. It’s been so amazeen travelin’ across this great country and meetin’ people, and even Alaskans down here also as we travel across the country also meetin’ people… I miss you guys SOOO much.”

Folksy!

One of the most underrated pleasures of an Obama victory will be reading The Corner in the days of and after the election.

I admit -- crossing my fingers, not counting chickens, etc. -- that will be a deep, deep delight. So here's hoping.

OBAMA DEFEATS McCAIN

Amazing!

my mom has been insulting via the term "obamalover" ( hence the name change). She's deeply into palin even knowing palin is a liar.

Thank god she's in California re: electoral votes

"obama lover". That's a good one. Can't wait to hear someone use the phrase "obama engineered".

She's deeply into palin even knowing palin is a liar.

Battered voter syndrome.

omfg tell me about it.

Support the team. Abandon all principles. Etc

countdown to morbs

Maybe Palin could have her own talk show after this is over. I think she would prefer that anyway - the fame without the scrutiny, and the work, and the responsibility.

VP debate parody on SNL, very lol

Barney rubble [Mark Steyn]

Re the post below on Congressman Frank and his Fannie male, a reader e-mails with a proposed Hollywood adaptation: Broke Bank Mountain.

On the other hand, apropos "gay mafias" in general:

In defense of the BBC (words I never thought I'd type), Doctor Who has been turned into a multi-million dollar cash cow for the government-run Corporation. If the US Government put gays like that in charge of Fannie and Freddie, we might not be in this pickle.

In fairness to Barney and his pal, they did manage to give Lehman Bros, Wachovia et al the amazing powers of Doctor Who's Tardis. One minute the bank's standing there, the next it's vanished. If only we knew where to. But somewhere out there is a distant galaxy that's suddenly acquired an amazing new ATM network.

10/05 01:00 AM

WTF??? The gays??

my mom has been insulting via the term "obamalover"

o_O

I doubt soccer is sufficiently pervasive in Hawaii to have caused a prominent style from there etc etc, so caveat lector obv.

sorry for OT but Hawaii has given us the Brian Ching style, namely "I'm big and old and sneaky and somehow I just put in a header"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081005/pl_politico/14283;_ylt=AqpI93pZkF5AiItaBOMjyYJh24cA

o should go george jefferson on that fool tuesday

VP debate parody on SNL, very lol

lols at "marriage is a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers."

obama should draft an appropriately nebulous 'next step' economic plan including adjustments to his platform. a month is too long to ride it out letting mccain hang himself obv. obama's trusted by default on the economy but i don't know that voters see his fiscal ambitions properly overlaid on the current economy (lehrer tried to get at this and and i thought both their answers were perfunctory and small, excusable in the last months dizziness); beating congress and the president to the punch shouldn't be hard at any rate, not that i'm enamored of all his economic advisors.

biden did say that the ticket's commitment to doubling foreign aid would have to be scaled back but yeah even without the current crisis i think most skeptics' trad challenge to democrats is always "sounds great but how ya gonna pay for it" which is a fair enough q

Better news in Minnesota.

Love the comments on that.

You are full of B.S and you wonder why your newspapers sales are down. I laugh when I walk past your paper stand at Walmart trying to give out free papers. I spit on your newpaper and your so call journalism. You might as well change your name to ObamaTribune.

John Hinderaker's come down in the world, then.

who was playing gwen ifill in snl??

Queen Latifah.

Keenan Thompson would have been better.

remember when she used to be scary? xp

SNL makes Palin seem too likable. What bugs me most about her is that Bushesque hubris, and willingness to say pretty much anything about their opponents. Frank Rich's op/ed from yesterday said it best.

Good bit, though.

on the iPhone here, but someone should fwd the story where john McCain's brother just called NoVA "communist country". It's just what the bwahaaaha doctor ordered

McCain's brother says N. Va. 'Communist country'

I don't know why, but the one blurb from this campaign that's really been cracking me up lately is "I've got a pen...this one's kinda old."

McCain's brother says N. Va. 'Communist country'

huh, interested in hearing my father's reaction to this since he's a military veteran McCain supporter who's lived in Northern Virginia for 17 years.

I like this guy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081005/pl_politico/14294

Okay, so this is pretty bad-ass -- and just damned cool:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/5/183340/309/352/621029

The swooning tone of the piece is pretty lol.

Also, remember this was 1988, when 100 dollars was quite a bit of money, compared to today's value.

Maybe I'm just cheap, but that's still quite a bit of money to me.

yeah, i'm not saying i don't believe it's possible but it's not something i'm gonna forward to my mom until it comes from a source a little more reputable than foxsucks81 or some norwegian newspaper.

Obama Hagiography! I love it!

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2008/10/connections.html

Palin's supporters are, for the most part, evangelical Christians, which is to say these are my people. She feeds my people lies, with a smile on her face, convinced that they are too stupid or too lazy to know or to care that she is feeding them bullshit and calling it chocolate. These people that she is treating with such contempt and inordinate condescension are my family -- both figuratively and literally.

Plus, as a general rule, when you're trying to land a below-the-belt smear it probably shouldn't include having to point out that your opponent has a long history of raising funds to help poor schoolchildren