who needs a stock when a stock can be worthless
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 March 2020 13:38 (four years ago) link
they are trying do hard to make the dow stay above 20k. I should go clean the house.
― Yerac, Friday, 20 March 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
Congressional Republicans have forced their way onto the emergency subsidies bandwagon and are expected to provide industry support in addition to (any) payouts to households. The traditional investor class should come through without difficulties.
I'm doing rolling spring cleaning in between work tasks. Yesterday I took down and washed the curtains, and have started washing winter clothes in anticipation of putting them in storage.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Friday, 20 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
I usually do all the main cleaning on Fridays so we have a nice clean house on the weekend, but it's been so dusty here and with the virus I've done more laundry in the middle of the week.
― Yerac, Friday, 20 March 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link
My wife has been on vacation all week because originally we were going to be traveling, and she's channeled her anxiety into an amazing amount of home improvement. I've helped out too, but I've also been working all week covering our local COVID developments. Anyway, she's so far regrouted the bathtub and kitchen sink, repainted the window in the bathroom, bought and hung a bunch of new plants, and yesterday we cleaned out the gutters. Today it's window-cleaning, I think.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 March 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
Also we've been baking -- bread, biscuits, homemade pizza dough.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 March 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
my wife want to deep clean this weekend but I can't find bleach anywhere :(
― sleeve, Friday, 20 March 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link
at some point they will need to come up with new tax law and/or make decisions re the tax consequences / implications of some of these things
― sarahell, Friday, 20 March 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
oh yeah, I still have plenty of work and haven't had to lay myself off yet
I am sorry that I came off aggro. Not really my intent
this is the maxim I have always lived by:
Bulls make moneyBears make moneyPigs get slaughtered.
this book changed my life , for one examplehere is a book that changed my life
https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Trader-Alpesh-Patel/dp/0273630067
― Chief Kyiv, Saturday, 21 March 2020 05:47 (four years ago) link
https://www.amazon.com/Random-Walk-Down-Wall-Street/dp/0393358380/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17KM7PYK11QC2&dchild=1&keywords=a+random+walk+down+wall+street&qid=1584769957&sprefix=a+random%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-1
― Chief Kyiv, Saturday, 21 March 2020 05:53 (four years ago) link
At Rodman's (NW DC) yesterday they had bleach on display behind the pharmacy counter. (I guess to limit purchases?) I was looking for a thermometer, but they (and CVS) were sold out.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link
soapy water apparently gets the job donehttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/world/clean-home-coronavirus.html
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 March 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
how low is this gonna go??
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
lol I just looked and briefly thought the Dow was at 800.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
hey I don't know shit about economics and investing, but could they just like....suspend can all trading for a month or two?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
*markets fall another 5% on rumors that rumors could be suspended for a month or two*
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
for posterity
https://i.imgur.com/H1mkN3m.png
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link
where's raccoon i wanna know when i should buy
― Mordy, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
can you imagine the panic if people couldn't get their money out of the market. I kind of thought trump would try it but not for that long.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
that doesn't really do anything except create more uncertainty and a bigger crash when you reopen it
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link
I feel like one thing they could do, is waive the early distribution penalty for people taking money out of retirement plans because they need the money to live on.
― sarahell, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
They should get rid of it entirely forever.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
I just hope the IRS would allow for a special withdrawal just for this purpose just like they did for other disasters.
My company follows Safe Harbor so since I'm 59 1/2, I can't take anything out. I don't want to but I'd like to know if I even can!
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
Eh, I actually agree with the penalty in theory -- like, people are getting a tax break on putting the money into a retirement plan because "saving for retirement is good" -- the penalty is there to reinforce that good and the fact it is saved for retirement as opposed to tax avoidance. ... I do think that expanding the exceptions to the penalty for "otherwise I would be starving / homeless etc" is needed.
― sarahell, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
Honestly, I wish they would decide on the stimulus package already, so that I can get around to explaining how it works to my clients and friends and then helping them understand what they need to do / not do.
― sarahell, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
Otm
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
i agree with the penalty in theory too but in practice it's not great. And yeah there do need to be more exceptions put into place.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
the entire thing should be overhauled. it's going to be a completely new age.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
401k's are dumb reason #1,872
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 23 March 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
someone on fb suggested they treat economic stimulus payments the way they do the APTC (the Obamacare subsidies that sometimes end up having to be repaid if you end up making too much money) , and I told that person, that is a really bad model. It's one thing to give someone an option for a subsidy and caution them, "you might end up having to pay this back" -- it's another thing to say, "here have some free money!" and then, "you might have to pay it back next year, depending on ... we'll figure it out." ... like, yeah, that's gonna make people feel less financially anxious.
― sarahell, Monday, 23 March 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link
just wandering around mumbling "stonks" and "means testing" while looking grumpy
― absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Monday, 23 March 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
start muttering:
Bulls make moneyBears make moneyPigs get slaughtered.Dance like nobody's watching.
― Yerac, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link
mh my new mantra is "haha money printer go brrrrrrr"
― silby, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
grim reapahshort sellahthey betta have my money when I come to colleckbrbrbrbrb
― sarahell, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
lol beat me to it
― sleeve, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
I do appreciate the money printer memes
― absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Monday, 23 March 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
Capitalism https://t.co/2b7CcN2RfV— August J. Pollak (@AugustJPollak) March 23, 2020
― coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Monday, 23 March 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
This is precisely the type of crisis when you want the Congress to spend like crazy on every necessary program to protect ordinary people from penury and then have the Federal Reserve monetize most of that federal debt by buying up lots of the Treasury bonds issued to cover that spending.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 23 March 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
green open: Trader!me, bob dylan: i don't believe you. you're a liar!
― Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
actual bob dylan: there's vanilla ice in the conference rooom
― Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
The sun's not yellow, it's Corona.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
some of you may have thought today's stock market rise was caused by the pending legislative deal.
turns out you're wrong. it went up because everyone is encouraged by trump's idea to just go back to work next week. that really soothed the nerves of a lot of nervous investors and they thought "oh yeah, makes sense! we'll just go back to work! what were we thinking of doing otherwise? staying away the fuck from each other for a few weeks to save a few million lives? that's silly." also, the president thinks that the stock market will be back to normal in 2 weeks.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link
I like the theory that Trump intentionally goosed it with BS just to boost his stocks to sell for liquidity.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
the stock market will be back to normal in 2 weeks
news flash: the stock market has been behaving 'normally' all along. it looks at the incentives and goes where they lead. lately the incentive has been to gtfo. throw trillions of dollars at mega-corporations and the incentives may change again.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
the people that seem to be trump supporters are calling that the bottom was yesterday. SIGH.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
that was indeed the lowest point until the next lowest point
― absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
are they still planning on giving the airlines a shit-ton of money?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link
evidently
― silby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link
perfect time to start our own airline. It's not like we have to fly anywhere anytime soon.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link