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Also the original 45 pressing had "YMMV" etched along the run-off groove.

nabisco, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

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Agreed, fully! However, the rest of the song is so evocative (especially for Paul) and carefully put together that I'm surprised he chose such a cop-out line to conclude the whole story (and then stuck poor John with the task of delivering it).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

how do you know john didn't write that line?

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I don't.

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

also, how can you say "so evocative for paul" when he was writing stuff like for no one and and eleanor rigby and penny lane around that time??

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think it's so bad if you hear it in the voice of rich parents trying to figure out why their daughter ran away after trying to buy her off for years.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

paul says in 'many years from now' that they wrote it together: "(john) was doing the Greek chorus, the parents' point of view: 'we gave her most of our lives/we gave her everything money could buy'."

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

also, how can you say "so evocative for paul" when he was writing stuff like for no one and and eleanor rigby and penny lane around that time??

Those are also especially evocative for Paul. They're the exception, not the rule. For the record, I'm one of the biggest Macca supporters I know - I just had issues with that one line.

And Pete, I do think the line makes sense if you imagine the parents saying it - something that's reinforced by the fact that John sings all of the parents' lines. I'd never noticed this before. I do believe you've saved the song for me!

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

paul says in 'many years from now' that they wrote it together: "(john) was doing the Greek chorus, the parents' point of view: 'we gave her most of our lives/we gave her everything money could buy'."

See, this is why I love ILM. I can now listen to this line with contentment.

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

you're content because john wrote it??

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm content because I'd never imagined that particular line as the parent trying to rationalize their daughter's departure - "oh well, fun is the one thing we couldn't buy for her."

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

parent -> parents

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

indeed - problem solved!

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I was on fire on this thread.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

also, how can you say "so evocative for paul" when he was writing stuff like...

Ah, I think you misread Davey D. He meant that the line was evocative for paul! Since he knows that it was, obv "Davey D." is Paul.

...when he was writing stuff like for no one...

oh come on, even though Davey could only describe his own feelings about the lyrics, I'm sure he was aware that there was an audience out there as well.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

1st comment is funny but you lost me on the 2nd one!

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know if this has been said, but the version of "I'm Looking Through You" is much, much better on Anthology 2, not just for the superior arrangment and sonics, but because it doesn't yet have the bridge, which is weak musically, and which corners the song into being about love, when it can be about many other kinds of relationships otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eedLQ006ciM

Bridge:
Why, tell me why, did you not treat me right?
Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I prefer the Anthology versions of 'Something' and 'Can't Buy Me Love'. 'Something' has more of a sitar-y guitar and a new verse, and 'Can't Buy Me Love' has a call and response structure that works really well, too bad it was scrapped.

musically, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

IIRC john wrote all of the parents' chorus and took it largely from things his famously cranky aunt mimi used to tell him ("never a thought for ourselves...")

J.D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

There is nothing new to say about The Beatles. But their music is still great nevertheless. Both as a listen in itself, and as a source of musical influence for new generations of musicians to come.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

You are a true patriot.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:17 (sixteen years ago) link

musical influence for new generations of musicians to come.

That could very well be needless wishful thinking, Geir. I say let young people create their own music.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

They will anyway.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I think you misread Davey D. He meant that the line was evocative for paul! Since he knows that it was, obv "Davey D." is Paul.

Have you heard my amazing new album, Memory Almost Full? It like, a stunning return to form, or something, y'know?

Davey D, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know if this has been said, but the version of "I'm Looking Through You" is much, much better on Anthology 2, not just for the superior arrangment and sonics, but because it doesn't yet have the bridge, which is weak musically, and which corners the song into being about love, when it can be about many other kinds of relationships otherwise.

I agree about the bridge cornering the song lyrically, but I prefer the original arrangement. Anthology 3's version of "Ob-La-Di" completely slays the White Album version, though.

Davey D, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

It's been a long time since I've heard it, but I seem to remember the acoustic version of "All Things Must Pass" on "Anthology 3" being pretty amazing.

novaheat, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

1st comment is funny but you lost me on the 2nd one!

Insert commas in your mind before and after "like".

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

In my early teens the family had a CD player that had buttons for intro and repeat. You could program a single song and use both buttons so that it'd play the first ten seconds endlessly. I discovered this worked rather well with "Girl," such that you get asked "Is there anybody going to listen to my story all about the girl who came to stay?" over and over. What was once a rhetorical question starts to seem rather desperate after a while.

eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

You know, I read recently that Paul wrote "for no-one" while on holiday abroad (switzerland?) with Jane Asher.

Must have been one hell of a downer holiday!

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I say let young people create their own music.

Yes. But based on the legacy of The Beatles. Just like Beethoven created his own music based on the legacy of Mozart and Haydn.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The bridge is the best thing about "I'm Looking Through You"

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The 'pre-' version without the bridge is better.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:57 (sixteen years ago) link

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles. i don't know how long you expect it to go on.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link

It reads like a Minor Threat song without the bridge.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Stephen King shot John Lennon.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles.

Not as much as it ought to. Other than progrock, pomp pop and Britpop, not a lot of post 60s music has built that much on The Beatles.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(And powerpop obv)

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Nirvana

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir, contemplating the musical future you envision is boring me to near suicide.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope you have fun listening to Ben Folds and the Friends theme song for the rest of your life.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

pomp pop?

(tell me less)

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Pomp Pop Defined.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:08 (sixteen years ago) link

ta.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

There's no frickin' way John is saying "cranberry sauce" at the end of "Strawberry Fields."

At about age 10, after finally recieving the courage to listen to it all the way through with headphones (cos the end is really fucked up sounding and scared the shit out me at age 7 and kept me up at night and I literally had bad dreams about those sounds haunting me), I thought he was saying "clap very slow."

billstevejim, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I was on fire on this thread.

Alex in NYC

I confess to nearly laughing out loud at my Magical Mystery Tour comment above. (And I usually hate encountering my old posts

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Did anyone else know about this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHrMQa-Iro

timellison, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

When the Rush vs. Yes vs. Beatles poll happens, I expect the Beatles will win.

clemenza, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp - now I want a Mellotron even more than i used to.....

Lee626, Monday, 6 August 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

In my early teens the family had a CD player that had buttons for intro and repeat. You could program a single song and use both buttons so that it'd play the first ten seconds endlessly. I discovered this worked rather well with "Girl," such that you get asked "Is there anybody going to listen to my story all about the girl who came to stay?" over and over. What was once a rhetorical question starts to seem rather desperate after a while.

― eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

ROFLing at this.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Monday, 6 August 2012 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

There was no fifth Beatle, the substitutes all wore the number 8 shirt

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link


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