the band that best addrsses 'Irishness' and the subject of Ireland

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An Irish band who were truly addressing the burning issues of their country would be writing songs about foreign holidays, house
prices and hospital waiting lists, because they're the kind of things that people here are concerned with.

This makes it sound like Ireland needs a Manic Street Preachers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

(Also Irish people can be sentimental self-mythologising alcoholics just as well as "Irish" people, possibly more so)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

cf the loudest and most (ahem) impassioned singalong I have heard in a pub being to "Lullaby of New York".

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

singalongs surely are no gauge for anything.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

> This makes it sound like Ireland needs a Manic Street Preachers.

I'm saying we don't need a house band at all. My thesis is that we no longer have any stories worth singing about.

Actually, there's a native comedy troupe who occasionally appear (Mighty Wind-style) as fake-folkie balladeers, satirising the whiny, recriminatory self-pity that pervades so much of Ireland's "trad" songbook.
They're called The Hairy Bowsies*, and their songs tackle Perfidious Albion (Ye Dirty English Bastards) and sacred cows such as the 1916 Rising (The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland) and the Potato Famine (Jaysus, The Spuds Aren't Lookin' The Best).

(*"Bowsie" is a Dublin slangword connoting a man of low breeding and unpleasant personal habits.)

Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

there must be some decent Irish music but I've yet to hear it. I guess the dance scene isn't bad, but maybe it's easier to be passable in the dance scene.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

The dance scene? You mean Michael Flatley and that shit?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 20 May 2004 08:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

no dance music
house techno etc
(i presume)

robin (robin), Thursday, 20 May 2004 18:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

that was lame dada

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 20 May 2004 18:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

philomena begley

gershy, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

I always wondered if "the ambulance . . . took little Jim away" in the Undertones' song because he committed suicide or because a bomb got him.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

What, no-one's mentioned The Cranberries yet :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

No Foster and Allen? It's a disgrace, so it is.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Re: The supposed Irishness of the Pogues. The line-up in their mid-80's heyday was as follows:

Shane McGowan who was born in Tunbridge Wells
James Fearnley who was born in Manchester
Spider Stacey who was born in Eastbourne
Jem Finer who was born in Stoke
Andrew Ranken who was born in London
Cait O'Riordan who was born in Nigeria (before moving to London)
Darrell Hunt who was born in Hampshire

but(although he didn't join till Rum, Sodomy etc)....
Phil Chevron was born in Dublin YAAAAAY!

everything, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

A lot of 19th century National Romantic composers, painters and authors preferred to live outside their home countries.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Their "home country" is England.

everything, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bap Kennedy has a few songs that help this Yank relate to living in difficult times in Ireland.

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Divine Comedy - Sunrise

I was born in Londonderry
I was born in Derry City too
Oh what a special child
To see such things and still to smile
I know that there was something wrong
But I kept my head down and carried on

I grew up in Enniskillen
I grew up in Inis Ceathlain too
Oh what a clever boy
To watch your hometown be destroyed
I know that I could not stay long
So I kept my head down and carried on

Who cares where national borders lie
Who cares whose laws you're governed by
Who cares what name you call a town
Who'll care when you're six feet beneath the ground

From the corner of my eye
A hint of blue in the black sky
A ray of hope, a beam of light
An end to thirty years of night
The church-bells ring, the children sing
What is this strange and beautiful thing
It's the sunrise
Can you see the sunrise?
I can see the sunrise

Finefinemusic, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

the band that best addrsses 'Irishness' and the subject of Ireland ...inna reggae song?

t**t, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

Christy Moore was still the best answer on this thread, but it asked for a band, so it would probably have to be Planxty whose first three albums (at least) were pretty much peerless.

Lostandfound, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

planxty was such a good band, and pre-MOR paul brady was even better than christy moore imho (lol i just remembered luka bloom, christy's brother - is he still "around")

gershy, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Mary Coughlan: "My Land Is Too Green" (abt sentimental self-mythologising alcoholics ect)

anatol_merklich, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

No mention of Clannad or Enya?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 May 2007 11:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

the Virgin Prunes, see especially the song "Down The Memory Lane" or most of Heresie for example.

sleeve, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Actually, there's a native comedy troupe who occasionally appear (Mighty Wind-style) as fake-folkie balladeers, satirising the whiny, recriminatory self-pity that pervades so much of Ireland's "trad" songbook.
They're called The Hairy Bowsies*, and their songs tackle Perfidious Albion (Ye Dirty English Bastards) and sacred cows such as the 1916 Rising (The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland) and the Potato Famine (Jaysus, The Spuds Aren't Lookin' The Best).

must look these guys up, those titles are pretty sharp.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 13:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's always the Horslips.

THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

I vote for Primordial. Easily the greatest Irish band of the last 20 years.

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland

lol

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

so beautiful...

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's clearly a gap in the market for a band of young(ish) men full of righteous anger spewing venom about falling house prices, the income levy, and the loss of Ranelagh's Michelin star restaurant.

ecuador_with_a_c, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's clearly a gap in the market for a band of young(ish) men full of righteous anger spewing venom about falling house prices, the income levy, and the loss of Ranelagh's Michelin star restaurant.

or career rebirth for the Thrills, to give vent to the anger of their class....

sonofstan, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I used to play football (soccer) with the lead singer of Primordial when I was a kid. He's one of my best friend's cousins.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 22:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

my best mate was introduced to his GF by one of the thrills at a wedding, and subsequently given the use of his posh room to consummate said meeting.

that pic from the youtube primordial is five mins from me.

i got nothin else.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was actually my dad

seriously tho, first sentence, are you saying your mate slept with guy from primordial's gf? or the dude from the thrills? i saw the thrills in aladdin's on brick lane last thurs. the circle is complete.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

introduced to his own future gf, not a gf of any of the thrills. that i am aware of.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

ah okay, now i understand. the dublin indie scene is pretty small. a lot of bands/artists i thought were irredeemably shite turn out to be v nice and good fun and into techno.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

their music still shite tho...imo

Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

certainly.

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...


Women from the UK/Ireland area have the most soothing songs/voices. This girl, Enya, Leona Lewis, Dolores O'Riordan from the cranberries to name a few.
Just something about celtic women singing that calms the soul.
Jarsia 1 year ago 34

pizza pizza and cult jam (crüt), Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

has never heard Dolores O honk like a sealion on "Zombie" i take it

seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

the band ronan was looking for singing about young posh middleclass upwardly mobile ireland (but well aware of cultural nationalism's importance to edge in the celt angle) are probably bell x1 tbh, cf reacharound

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i mean the chieftains were suckin diesel last night on jools holland and if we can go back to the dubliners, those are good answers too.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

just think of all those douce celtic sirens like sinead o'connor, jessie j and the melifluous cerys from catatonia

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

NPR says they deliver “a brilliant co-mingling of electronic music and anthemic pop rock”.[4] The band is named after the Bell X-1, the first supersonic aircraft in history.

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

co-mingling

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Clancy Brothers with Tommy Makem

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

They're called The Hairy Bowsies*, and their songs tackle Perfidious Albion (Ye Dirty English Bastards) and sacred cows such as the 1916 Rising (The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland) and the Potato Famine (Jaysus, The Spuds Aren't Lookin' The Best).

I thought this was Ding Dong Denny O'Reilly, one of whose tunes is reputed to feature the lovely lyric "Flow river flow / fuck off to the sea".

I understand that the same person was also behind Tony St. James and the Joshua Trio.

The New Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

an old website: http://indigo.ie/~lwp/dingdong/

The New Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink


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