Shoegazer Revival - S/D

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Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

As for Fennesz, as much as I enjoy his records (and especially several of the tracks on 'Venice'), it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc. The best tracks on 'Venice' sound like 'Loveless' interstitials which is a high compliment, but they're not specifically why I always return to that record. Also, there's a Kevin Shields piece called "2" from his La La Human Steps collaboration which is perhaps his best pure texture track (I've only found a barely acceptable quality .mp3 unfortunately). It gives me that same ecstatic nausea that frankly, no other "shoegaze" artist can do.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

One Delays track I'm thinking of has this bit of Sigur Ros-style 'beautiful' guitar noise, but they then proceed to make a hook out of that instead of floating off into the ether wibbling like Our Boys From Iceland. Really captured my ear, because it's a seemingly simple approach that adds some unexpected depth, and not in the 'oh it is art' sense, just in the 'hey, more going on!' sense.

it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc

Well that's why for me when Sylvian brings in the purring voice everything's all 'oh heavens, THIS is nice.' I hadn't even realized he was on there and I still haven't heard the stuff they did together last year, so it was quite striking how well the two combined.

ecstatic nausea

Mmmm, nausea. Needs to be more of that. Haven't been knocked sideways in a long, long while.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

It's around. There's a two disc edition.

Yes there is (re: Snowpony), and the second disc is remarkable, being as it's tracks off the album remixed in a drum'n'bass stylee by, er, Moving Shadow's Rob Playford...

As a slight aside, I finally got my mitts on a copy of Lush's Gala compilation! Arrived in the post yesterday. My, is it lovely.

Oh, and as to the shouegazine revival, think I might've mentioned Sennen before, but I've only just found out they have a website. so ner.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

*cough* "shouegazine"? what's wrong with me?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

I think this whole idea of the electronica/shoegaze thing is what makes me love the Telefon Tel Aviv newest album so much.

yo yo yo (cRaiG), Friday, 2 April 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
HA HA, REVIVE, BECAUSE WE ALL WENT TO A SHOEGAZER CLUB ON SATURDAY NIGHT!!!

I mean, it was even called "Sonic Cathedrals" and everything.

Radio Department played. But that wasn't even the highlight of the evening. The Telescopes DJ'd.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

we don't have shoegazer clubs

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

London hasn't seen a proper shoegazer club in OVER A DECADE, but my god did it need one. I was even willing to put up with a Hoxton crowd and horrible heat just for the privilige of spinning around wildly to Loop's "Spinning" on a dance floor. Oh yes, and Sonic Boom videos, too. I can die happy.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i would dj a fucking awesome set at a shoegaze club, but in melbourne it would be me and perhaps four others.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Dancing to shoegaze!

Next thing you know some corny English fuck will talk over some crappy electro beats about SMSing....

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

SORRY FOR UNFUNNY

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to DJ a more extreme music set than I do at shitty campus stuff. NOISE + SHOEGAZE + MODERN COMPOSER CRAP ETC

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie No.4 has been talking about starting a Shoegazer club for ages, so I'm glad that someone finally did it.

What's crazy is I had forgotten just how danceable much of Shoegazing really was! I mean, sure, lots of it was Cathedrals of Sound type prettiness, but the extended dance mixes and the Weatherall mixes and the "rave music with Rickenbachers, right?" stuff...

I guess, post-Manitoba, someone actually realised "YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!? CHAPTERHOUSE REALLY WERE GREAT!!!"

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

send me MDMA in mail europeople

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Kate>>> How was the Radio Dept show?

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, Radio Dept. were really, really, good, as well. I need to get their record because they were very swirly and lovely. At least I have a badge now. :-)

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

That club night was AMAZING. I had such a good time despite the other major issues (too hot, no coatcheck, took AGES to get a drink) . I can't remember the last time I got to hear that music in a club. Being able to dance to all that old creation stuff (House of Love, Ride, MBV) was such a treat. OMG Pale Saints! Loop! It even occurred to me (briefly) that Revolver were actually kinda good...

(And hey surfacenoise - I'll be visiting Melbourne in a couple months, so you'd have five people there... )

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The Revolver video was really cute.

I spent the first 20 minutes just staring at the screen, until I realised that it was on a repeating loop. I mean, Lush videos! Ride videos I'd never seen. Slowdive videos. Chapterhouse videos. Did I mention the SONIC BOOM videos? They did a whole Spacemen spin-offs set including even The Darkside.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:17 (nineteen years ago) link

And I thought Radio Dept. were pretty good live too, although I wasn't blown away - probably because I was expecting too much since the CD is so damn spiffy.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, see, I haven't heard the CD so I didn't know what to expect.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Blimey, we toyed with going to this for a while but just went back to a mates house and got trammelled. We all agreed it was a good idea though. ahhh revolver

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link

it was a lot of fun in a slightly cloying nostalgic kindofa way. the scene that celebrates itself even made a little bit of an effort. baby sitters all over london must have been doing a roaring trade looking after all those little stripey t shirted tarquins and tabithas. the records were pretty much as i remembered only less so, with the arse end (pale saints, chapterhouse, fkn revolver) sounding a lot more trad rock and not really that, ahem, etheriel at all. revolver were pretty much emf with a flange pedal. still as revisiting floppy fringed youth exerecises go, it was pretty inoffensive. radio dept were better than i'd imagine too, tho the shoegazing tag is a bit a misnomer, more of a sarah rcds / pacific almost mongolfier brothers kindof a thing? no? i was stupendously drunk and not so attentive perhaps.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm amazed you were able to get drunk at all given the slow wait at the bar...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

ahhhh. i had my minions working overtime. blimey was it ever hot though.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link

> the arse end (pale saints...

cough, splutter. my mouth is opening and closing but no words are coming out.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, I was ignoring that.

I think Pale Saints were one of the most underrated bands of the 90s.

I was in the loo when "Sight Of You" came on, but I was so so so so soooo happy to hear it again.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

radio dept were better than i'd imagine too, tho the shoegazing tag is a bit a misnomer, more of a sarah rcds / pacific almost mongolfier brothers kindof a thing? no?

Yes, definitely, very much OTM!

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

no nono you're right, pale saints don't deserve that bracket at all, some frineds of mine are walking up the aisle to their version of kinky love next weekend, did they play that on saturday or did i DREAM it. i still stand by the revolver thing though. they didn't play any moose did they? that strawberry wine / mercy seat / how you satisfy me sequence was something else. and yeh the sub spacemen 3 half hour was fun, it threw into sharp relief how bombastic and sortof histrionic most droney psychy rock is these days.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

oh come on, in what way is the twee mimsy of "heaven sent an angel" anything like EMF. (twee mimsy that I have to 'fess up to having a big soft spot for - mind you haven't heard it in about ten years)

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

EMF had a slightly winsome cure-ish quality to the singing no, but really it's the over produced 90's beef of the drums and all those power chords and stuff. and the horrible inspipd obviousness of the tune.

cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, they played Kinky Boots. One of my mates at the party we'd been at all afternoon utterly called "I bet they'll play Kinky Boots..." and lo and behold...

strawberry wine / mercy seat / how you satisfy me

I nearly exploded with happiness. Oh wait, maybe that was the heat. But still. No heat in the world could have stopped me from dancing to that.

Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know this 'Revolver' business.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

http://snow.prohosting.com/ukband/Revolver.htm

notable only for their cover of Since Yesterday.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Slough Festival?!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

All this talk makes me of the merry.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Radio Dept. are live in session on the Hub on Gideon Coe/ 6 Music this Friday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/gideon_coe/

also apparently tomorrow is:

We wish My Bloody Valentine's Debbie Googe a very Happy Indie Birthday today!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

> Slough Festival?!

i was there! twice!

ride, curve, slowdive in 1991
er, jesus jones in 1992

http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister@majordomo.net/1998-month-07/msg00471.html
(check out the 'prev by date' message 8)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

can someone reccomend some of this dancefloor friendly shoegaze stuff for me

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

What are the 3 must own albums from Clairecords?

Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Good God, that club sounds like my idea of heaven.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

:( answers?

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, there are a few. It depends on what you're interested in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

give me a starting place

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Chapterhouse, Seefeel and of course MBV (at points).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

teenage filmstars "loving"

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

What are the 3 must own albums from Clairecords?
-- Piers (pier...), October 25th, 2004 8:42 AM. (piers) (later)

ecstasy of st. theresa - sussurate

also: tonevendor (who are big-upped on the Sacramento C/D, S/D. thread) are daniel and heather of clairecords.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

New Monster Movie album is great

Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

You know, I remember that paragraph from Keith. Well, bits of it.

Where was Slough festival held? If that's not a silly question.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link


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