how do you do, fellow job-creators
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 February 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
i've lost 15% of my retirement now
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
Iโm just not going to look at my 401k.
― o. nate, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
LOL "retirement"
If you wanted to retire, you should have picked a different country to be born in.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
you really shouldn't think about retirement accounts more than once a year or so anyway
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
ok, i am going to make a note to think about it again on feb 28, 2021
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
but it seems silly to leave money 100% invested in stocks right now, when the market is in a free fall and things are bound to be stagnant or worse for months
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link
NFLX is still boominโ
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
if you manage your own asset allocation and now have a higher or lower proportion of your net worth in stocks vs bonds than you are targeting due to significant market movement you should rebalance but it's easier to move stuff into a Vanguard fund that does the balancing for you. There's no point in any action but that.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
i think the only dow stock i had was nike and i sold that week.
― Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
i manage it myself, and i can move it once a day (before noon EST, effective next business day). my thought is to put it 75% bonds/25% small cap until the overall picture looks a little less completely fucked
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
that's pretty drastic, you're not even 40
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
i mean to shift it that way for a few days to a week, then put it back to 100% stock
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
I would not feel confident I would come out ahead in that venture, this is what I pay the animated corpse of John Bogle for
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
or you should buy a horse and boat.
― Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
my terrible secret is that only I can stop the stock market collapse. as soon as i pull my money out, the market will bounce back up 5-10%. then, when i put my money back in, it will resume freefall
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
If you can weather it, now does not seem to be the time to sell, unless you're gambling that things will get much, much worse and stay that way. Which they may! But the market was also really, really inflated and overdue (as far as that goes) for some sort of correction. The best bet, for anyone nowhere near retirement, would probably be to do nothing. Or actually to take advantage of any lowered rates and refinance their home or whatever.
A good fund should be hoovering up discount stocks, though I guess any major movement in that direction would help staunch the market's fall, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
xp, god, you have no idea how much i want to do that
so many times i have been tempted to just take all my retirement out, take the tax penalty, and cancel out my student debt, which is almost the same. then i will truly be worthless and free
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
i thought about my retirement account last week so i don't have to think about it now
― ciderpress, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
do you have the cash to put into the account and hold it until the bottom hits? once bottom hits buy buy buy
(I have been holding my contributions in my IRA as cash for the last 5 months or so, rather than buy buy buy)
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
because you can't time the market
the market times YOU.
― Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
*winks knowingly*
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
Stop! Market time!https://media.giphy.com/media/11rIergnpiYpvW/giphy.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
i'm just gonna increase my contribution %
― ciderpress, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link
I'm kind of glad Blue Apron did so poorly. I really never understood who used that for extended periods of time. It seemed expensive for what it was.
― Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link
silby otm
― ||||||||, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
yeah that's definitely in my schadenfreude category
― ciderpress, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
Blue Apron turned a lot of investor money into podcasts and I salute their efforts
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link
i'm 100% eStork let's goooo
― i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
there should be a stock you can buy that goes up when people make bad posts
― ciderpress, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
surely this is exactly why pension funds etc automatically move to cash/bonds for the last couple of years. if you have a decade or three to go just sit tight. itโs a long game!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
If you have a retirement account through your employer, there are advisors you should be able to access for free who know what theyโre talking about
― brimstead, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link
i'm in the same account as millions of other feds. the advisors have been replaced with maga trolls who make fart noises with their hands cupped to their armpits whenever you try to call them
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
anyway, it doesn't matter. the deadline to change allocations for monday was about 30 minutes ago, so i'm all in for monday
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
endless growth, exponential, for 30 years, that's what we're all counting on
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
shit! that sucks, man, sorry. I guess theyโre all getting hosed now anyway
― brimstead, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
yeah, it's ok. it's just a bunch of money i diligently stored away in my 20s and early 30s, rather than saving up to buy a house or pay off my student loans
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
this way, when i'm old enough to retire i can finally use that money to pay off my student loans and buy a tent in some rich guy's garden
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!๐ (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
i hope this doesn't harsh mr. trump's south carolina rally tonight
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
And to think people laughed when I told them I planned to drop dead of a stress-induced heart attack well before I hit retirement age. Who's laughinnnngGKKKKHHHH
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link
โ Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:03 (one hour ago) link
I've literally met two people ever who used Blue Apron -- my neighbors who are sort of adventurous empty nester types, and this one really sad single male lawyer in his late 30s.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
nah. he'll just call stock traders a bunch of stupid scaredy-cats who can't see how beautifully the economy is doing, really beautifully. but it's probably because the lying liberal media has been filling up their heads with scary lies about the Chi-nuh virus, and the crowd will lap it up, and howl with delight.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
I donโt think heโll call stock traders stupid
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
because he'll exercise self-restraint?
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
All this needs is the Price is Right mountain climber and a little yodel music. pic.twitter.com/r6RCBj8I5H— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 28, 2020
― Bougy! Bougie! Bougรฉ! (Eliza D.), Friday, 28 February 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
closing below 25,000 for the first time since spring 2019? oh my! monday may be something
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
nah it rebounded a few hundred before close
gonna be an interesting Monday
― frogbs, Friday, 28 February 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
injecting money into a plunging market in the final minutes before the close is an old tactic to bolster confidence going into the weekend. makes me wonder who arranged it and whose money was injected.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
might have something to do with the announcement that the Trump admin is gonna combat coronavirus with tax cuts
― frogbs, Friday, 28 February 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link