Let's talk about Gil Evans

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Out of the Cool was my intro to Gil and still slays me.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 1 February 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link

Any other albums with vocalists?

Satin Doll, Kamiko Kasai with Gil Evans Orchestra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnt4GCoGJw&list=PLmkPvOigXA2pyUuwfkMYdA2pBa_X89L6a

Brad C., Saturday, 1 February 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

ehhhh

the album is on YouTube as a playlist

Brad C., Saturday, 1 February 2020 03:44 (four years ago) link

Thanks, hadn't heard of that one. The only Gil I haven't liked (also haven't listened in forever) is another from the late 80s, Golden Hair, with Laurent Cugny's Big Band Lumiere. "Glacial" and then some, putting me right to sleep as escape. Waking up long enough to know it's still playing. But 3 stars from Allmusic, so hey.

dow, Sunday, 2 February 2020 03:46 (four years ago) link

her Wiki, which claims that Gil's arrangements on Dream of You led to his work w Miles

miles and gil had been collaborating since the mid/late '40s. the cited allmusic review says this:

In the picturesque arrangements one also hears the seeds of Evans' own future collaborations with Miles Davis.

which is really saying something different, regardless of whether or not one agrees

budo jeru, Sunday, 2 February 2020 04:03 (four years ago) link

Sorry! You're right. Anyway, if you like Gil with Miles, you'll like him with Helen Merrill.

dow, Sunday, 2 February 2020 05:56 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

if you haven't listened to any gil evans in a while, i think today is a fine day to remedy that.

out of the cool definitely one of the more significant albums of the 60s. i want to poll it. gil in those days was just about as godlike as it gets, i reckon.

scott unsurprisingly otm—

i play guitar forms - the album he made with kenny burrell - a bunch after all these years.

this is some deepness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gerLli270Zg

kenny burrell "lotus land" (1965)

outside of this, miles, and that one astrud gilberto did he do any other full album collaborations?

also the essentials are on spotify (mostly verve material) but what a bunch of disappointment otherwise. 90% of his catalogue is in purgatory.

''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOIfdvHIh0

Yes, Loftus Land of that one is an exquisite piece of music. Also Gil Evans was a marvel and his 50's/60'a albums were out of this world.

calzino, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

kenny burrell "lotus land" (1965)

outside of this, miles, and that one astrud gilberto did he do any other full album collaborations?


Dream of You, with singer Helen Merrill, much later re-done (same songs, new arrangements) as Collaboration. Also, when I asked about any other albums w vocalists, Brad C. mentioned
Satin Doll, Kamiko Kasai with Gil Evans Orchestra
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dow, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

Hadn't heard this Burrell album! 'Lotus Land' could easily fit on *The Individualism Of* album, and there's no higher praise. That and *Out of the Cool* are both genius records.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

xpost more collabs: Also, several favorable mentions on here of Paris Blues, his duet album w Steve Lacey, which is good, though Gil asks that we excuse his "arranger's piano," which does sound like rusty bedsprings for Steve's soprano sax acrobatics, but I enjoy that affect.
Otherwise,

The only Gil I haven't liked (also haven't listened in forever) is another from the late 80s, Golden Hair, with Laurent Cugny's Big Band Lumiere. "Glacial" and then some, putting me right to sleep as escape. Waking up long enough to know it's still playing. But 3 stars from Allmusic, so hey.
--dow

dow, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

Yeah, grab a coffee and listen.

dow, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

individualism been getting some extra love recently since wayne shorter passed. not that it wasn't always great, just surrounded by some heavier hitters.

thanks for stuff to look into. struggled w/steve lacy in the past, but perhaps reappraisal with a better attitude is needed.

this is a fucking bop icymi-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7JdtXrWQM
astrud gilberto arr by gil evans - "maria quiet" (1965)

''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

she's one of the best terrible singers ever, lol. love her voice.

budo jeru, Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

Good point.

Little Big Man Yells at Red Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link


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